Jon Meacham: My Friend Joe Biden ‘Has Proven Himself Again and Again To Be a Hugely Effective President’

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MEACHAM: “President Biden, as you say, he's my friend, I help him when I can, there's no -- no secret about that.”
BRZEZINSKI: “Yeah.”
MEACHAM: “I think that he has proven himself again and again to be a hugely effective president. I have no anxieties about his capacity to make important decisions for the country. His political question is having me say that has virtually no effect. He's got to show it. You can't tell voters things, you have to show them.”