Kasich: Obama’s Choice of Nuke Deal or War with Iran ‘Is a Fallacious Argument’
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O’REILLY: “Iranian nuke deal, Congress not going to approve it but they are not going to have enough votes to override a presidential veto.”
KASICH: “They might. Don’t count that out.”
O’REILLY: “I don't think so.”
KASICH: “Hey listen, Schumer coming our way on -- well, on my way. I don't want this deal to pass for two reasons. One is, what's going to end up is they are going to is have a nuke and then they are going to is have stronger economy. We need to leave the sanctions on and if, in fact --” [Crosstalk]
O’REILLY: “OK. But you know as well as I do. That the president can override and make this treaty without Congress' approval and he is going to get part of his legacy.”
KASICH: “But Bill, what you got to do is -- no, it's an override vote. So the vote is not them turning it down. It’s their ability to override.”
O’REILLY: “But it doesn’t matter. If they don't approve the treaty he can do it unilaterally. Obama can make this nuke deal unilaterally. This is all for show. And it's a good show because the American people should ever say through their representatives. I agree. But, you don’t make the nuke deal, Iran gets the nuke, you have to go to war to stop them. That’s the argument for making the deal. And you say?”
KASICH: “I say that's a fallacious argument. The simple fact of the matter is, you need to squeeze them. Iran may overtime ultimately get something like that. But what we're doing is, we’re giving them permission to continue to develop things and at the same time freeing up their economy so they can continue to support people like Hamas and Hezbollah. And if you listen to our Arab ally friends, Bill, early on they didn't want this because this is going to empower Iran to undermine their very way of life and even their government's by taking this money through their growth and their economy and I believe keeping the pressure on makes these young people more and more uncomfortable with the Ayatollah. We should make it extremely difficult for them and the difficulty which represents the spread of this nuclear material. You saw where ISIS may have chemical weapons. Imagine if they could get their hands on some of this nuclear material and what they would do with it.”
O’REILLY: “That’s the argument. I have got to go, but this is fascinating. Of course we will have you back. Number one Putin, and number two, China, not going to cooperate with squeezing Iran. Not going to do it. All right. You saw the European nations couldn't get in there fast enough. And so President Obama has allowed those sanctions to go by the wayside. It’s going to be very hard to re-impose them. I don't believe it could happen.”
KASICH: “Bill, here is what we do. Wait, wait. Hold on, Bill. You put our sanctions on and there is a secondary. French Oil Company wants to sell to Iran. If we put sanctions on then they do don't business in America. That’s more powerful than people think.”
