Chuck Todd Suggests to Flake that Congress ‘Lead’ by Removing Trump from Office

MSNBC's Chuck Todd says one way Congress can "lead" in cleaning up Washington is removing by removing President Trump from office. 

Todd spoke Tuesday with Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who had just announced he will leave the Senate at the conclusion of his first term. 

Flake explained his intent in resigning is to create a "tipping point" whereby Americans followed his lead and turned against the Trump Administration. 

"There are hinges of history that, you know, that happen," Flake told Todd. "I hope we're nearing that. I hope there are enough people who will stand up. And I think as elected leaders it's our responsibility to do that and not just wait for the groundswell and wait for the people to direct us. We ought to actually lead."

Todd then suggested that one way Congress could lead is by removing Trump from office. 

But that was too much even for Flake, who quickly distanced himself from the idea.  

Here's a transcript of the exchange:

FLAKE: "--We ought to actually lead."

TODD: “Well, there is way that Congress can change this. Do you think Congress should be pursuing every avenue to get President Trump out of office?”

FLAKE: “No. I don’t want to go down that road. I think that we ought to simply require more of our commander in chief and our leader. But I don’t think that we’re going to extra measures like that, 25th Amendment or something people talk about. I’m not one of those.”