Trey Gowdy: ‘I Have Seen No Evidence’ of Trump-Russia Collusion

‘We have a tendency to politicize almost everything’

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HEMMER: "Jeh Johnson is going to say the following, in part, 45 minutes from now, on the screen, 'In 2016 the Russian government, at the direction of Russian President Vladimir Putin himself, orchestrated cyberattacks on our nation for the purpose of influencing our election -- plain and simple.' He will also state there’s no evidence that votes were changed. And that is a critical point in all of this. I think sometimes arguably it gets lost. But this is the key. Russia tried to hack and influence, but we don’t know how far they achieved their ends. Is that -- is that our understanding as up today?"
GOWDY: "Yeah, that’s a really good summary. And I think you put your finger on the seminal part of Jeh Johnson's testimony, which is there is no evidence that voter tallies or voter totals were changed. There's frankly no evidence that the Russian were successful in their efforts to infiltrate the -- the voter infrastructure. the third point I would say is, OK, if we knew this was going on during the election what did we do about it? All of -- all of what we're doing now, Bill, is -- is retrospective. If we knew the Russians had done it in the past, and we knew they were doing it in 2016, what was the U.S. government’s response in the summer and fall of 2016."
HEMMER: "That's a very, very interesting point because Jeh Johnson had authority then."
GOWDY: "Yes, he did."

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