RUSH TRANSCRIPT Doug Schoen ░░░░░░░░ women s forum policy ░░░░░░░░ Hadley Heath Manning best ░░░░░░░░ author former investment banker ░░░░░░░░ roth I know it ░░░░░░░░ hackneyed This is the ░░░░░░░░ team the best of ░░░░░░░░ best Thanks for being ░░░░░░░░ us Doug I want ░░░░░░░░ start with something written ░░░░░░░░ The Wall Street Journal ░░░░░░░░ Gerry Baker I don ░░░░░░░░ know if you saw ░░░░░░░░ this morning It s ░░░░░░░░ harsh I like you ░░░░░░░░ to respond to it ░░░░░░░░ the prospect of a ░░░░░░░░ s re election a ░░░░░░░░ moment a chance to ░░░░░░░░ supporters why you re ░░░░░░░░ in the first place ░░░░░░░░ opportunity to offer the ░░░░░░░░ curious but compelling and ░░░░░░░░ it should be a ░░░░░░░░ of hope for at ░░░░░░░░ half the country This ░░░░░░░░ around four more years ░░░░░░░░ like a parole board ░░░░░░░░ answer to a prisoner ░░░░░░░░ appeal What do you ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ would use the same ░░░░░░░░ gerry did but it ░░░░░░░░ certainly the case David ░░░░░░░░ the president s ratings ░░░░░░░░ all on the economy ░░░░░░░░ underwater and 70 of ░░░░░░░░ don t want him ░░░░░░░░ run So he has ░░░░░░░░ significant headwinds I think ░░░░░░░░ is why he is ░░░░░░░░ now why he is ░░░░░░░░ off a tour to ░░░░░░░░ the economy because so ░░░░░░░░ he has been unable ░░░░░░░░ penetrate with facts and ░░░░░░░░ about what he says ░░░░░░░░ has accomplished David Carol ░░░░░░░░ s talk about his ░░░░░░░░ his coming focus on ░░░░░░░░ economy First of all ░░░░░░░░ usually starts with something ░░░░░░░░ is just not true ░░░░░░░░ says he inherited a ░░░░░░░░ economy and turned it ░░░░░░░░ In fact in January ░░░░░░░░ 2021 the economy had ░░░░░░░░ from the recession the ░░░░░░░░ pandemic recession Its was ░░░░░░░░ on an annual basis ░░░░░░░░ January 2021 at 6 ░░░░░░░░ a 1 4 inflation ░░░░░░░░ and of course that ░░░░░░░░ around right after the ░░░░░░░░ of several different economic ░░░░░░░░ that he put into ░░░░░░░░ process and we ended ░░░░░░░░ with stagflation So that ░░░░░░░░ premise of where he ░░░░░░░░ is wrong no It ░░░░░░░░ is We literally cannot ░░░░░░░░ four more years of ░░░░░░░░ Biden He has not ░░░░░░░░ investing in America as ░░░░░░░░ has been saying He ░░░░░░░░ been fleecing the middle ░░░░░░░░ whether the energy policies ░░░░░░░░ 40 year highs in ░░░░░░░░ hiring of IRS staffers ░░░░░░░░ of esg initiatives ahead ░░░░░░░░ your investment returns weaponizing ░░░░░░░░ the dollar on the ░░░░░░░░ stage threatening our position ░░░░░░░░ the world reserve currency ░░░░░░░░ has been decimating the ░░░░░░░░ So the idea that ░░░░░░░░ would come out and ░░░░░░░░ to run on the ░░░░░░░░ as a platform you ░░░░░░░░ that is a lot ░░░░░░░░ mental gymnastics people will ░░░░░░░░ to perform in order ░░░░░░░░ go along with that ░░░░░░░░ hadley you do have ░░░░░░░░ foreign policy problems he ░░░░░░░░ Starting with the Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ That brought his ratings ░░░░░░░░ to a level that ░░░░░░░░ really hasn t been ░░░░░░░░ to improve on since ░░░░░░░░ then we ve had ░░░░░░░░ number about mistakes Of ░░░░░░░░ the Saudi dealing with ░░░░░░░░ Arabia which many say ░░░░░░░░ them in the pocket ░░░░░░░░ dealing with China and ░░░░░░░░ of all people and ░░░░░░░░ recently we had the ░░░░░░░░ in sudan where apparently ░░░░░░░░ misjudged the civil war ░░░░░░░░ It is not just ░░░░░░░░ It is also the ░░░░░░░░ et cetera right Well ░░░░░░░░ s right You might ░░░░░░░░ the question why is ░░░░░░░░ running on the economy ░░░░░░░░ what else does he ░░░░░░░░ to run on You ░░░░░░░░ t run on global ░░░░░░░░ or the state of ░░░░░░░░ world You certainly can ░░░░░░░░ run on the cultural ░░░░░░░░ his party is to ░░░░░░░░ left left of most ░░░░░░░░ class mainstream voters are ░░░░░░░░ it comes to the ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ will be successful of ░░░░░░░░ populism in large part ░░░░░░░░ former President Trump and ░░░░░░░░ influence on the GOP ░░░░░░░░ Republicans are co opted ░░░░░░░░ message of populism reaching ░░░░░░░░ middle class voters than ░░░░░░░░ years ago It is ░░░░░░░░ not effective David on ░░░░░░░░ other hand he has ░░░░░░░░ the baggage political baggage ░░░░░░░░ does Donald Trump Perhaps ░░░░░░░░ doesn t have as ░░░░░░░░ because he had a ░░░░░░░░ record as governor although ░░░░░░░░ disputes that claim Isn ░░░░░░░░ it clear that Democrats ░░░░░░░░ would rather run against ░░░░░░░░ Are they making a ░░░░░░░░ by believing that you ░░░░░░░░ at the Trump record ░░░░░░░░ his personality aside if ░░░░░░░░ is possible you look ░░░░░░░░ Trump s record it ░░░░░░░░ pretty good compared to ░░░░░░░░ we ve been outlining ░░░░░░░░ Biden s record Well ░░░░░░░░ of all elections David ░░░░░░░░ my experience are as ░░░░░░░░ about personality and sense ░░░░░░░░ get of people as ░░░░░░░░ are about policy So ░░░░░░░░ think personality will be ░░░░░░░░ important than comparison of ░░░░░░░░ records That being said ░░░░░░░░ looks to me that ░░░░░░░░ certainly is weaker vis ░░░░░░░░ vis Biden than DeSantis ░░░░░░░░ numbers are very small ░░░░░░░░ margin of error is ░░░░░░░░ the difference Given desanity ░░░░░░░░ fading in the polls ░░░░░░░░ and Trump s surge ░░░░░░░░ is clear to me ░░░░░░░░ Republican brand is as ░░░░░░░░ in its own way ░░░░░░░░ the democratic brand David ░░░░░░░░ about DeSantis Carol We ░░░░░░░░ him in Japan Obviously ░░░░░░░░ governor of Florida doesn ░░░░░░░░ usually go to Japan ░░░░░░░░ clearly this was a ░░░░░░░░ the waters kind of ░░░░░░░░ for him But while ░░░░░░░░ was in Japan he ░░░░░░░░ to be moving away ░░░░░░░░ 2024 as a presidential ░░░░░░░░ Let me play a ░░░░░░░░ bite from his trip ░░░░░░░░ vap Japan I said ░░░░░░░░ the election of 2022 ░░░░░░░░ started asking me we ░░░░░░░░ a legislative session we ░░░░░░░░ working on We have ░░░░░░░░ few more weeks to ░░░░░░░░ with that we ll ░░░░░░░░ putting up a lot ░░░░░░░░ wins on the board ░░░░░░░░ I m not going ░░░░░░░░ be making any announcements ░░░░░░░░ that is concluded Okay ░░░░░░░░ you leaning one way ░░░░░░░░ the other Stay tuned ░░░░░░░░ stay tuned That is ░░░░░░░░ non committal Carol I ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ book tours to world ░░░░░░░░ he seems pretty much ░░░░░░░░ himself to be making ░░░░░░░░ run I do think ░░░░░░░░ has a fantastic team ░░░░░░░░ him so they re ░░░░░░░░ very careful They have ░░░░░░░░ going you know around ░░░░░░░░ get the Republicans party ░░░░░░░░ battleground state voter support ░░░░░░░░ they re on the ░░░░░░░░ stage garnering support I ░░░░░░░░ he wants to have ░░░░░░░░ of his ducks in ░░░░░░░░ row That in of ░░░░░░░░ differentiates him from a ░░░░░░░░ like President Trump David ░░░░░░░░ the other hand people ░░░░░░░░ his advisors are too ░░░░░░░░ focusing on issues important ░░░░░░░░ Florida but don t ░░░░░░░░ well in nationwide when ░░░░░░░░ look what happened had ░░░░░░░░ 2022 All the woke ░░░░░░░░ DeSantis focused on didn ░░░░░░░░ help Republicans as they ░░░░░░░░ Many Americans are voted ░░░░░░░░ their feet in terms ░░░░░░░░ DeSantis the way he ░░░░░░░░ the to the state ░░░░░░░░ Florida We ve seen ░░░░░░░░ migration to the state ░░░░░░░░ Florida in large part ░░░░░░░░ way he is leading ░░░░░░░░ I think Americans across ░░░░░░░░ country would love to ░░░░░░░░ that kind of leadership ░░░░░░░░ the national level Of ░░░░░░░░ the issues may look ░░░░░░░░ little different at the ░░░░░░░░ level Positioning where the ░░░░░░░░ where the center is ░░░░░░░░ might look different at ░░░░░░░░ national level No question ░░░░░░░░ has done an excellent ░░░░░░░░ leading the state of ░░░░░░░░ He attracted many people ░░░░░░░░ Voting with their feet ░░░░░░░░ not something to take ░░░░░░░░ granted David Doug finally ░░░░░░░░ me focus on the ░░░░░░░░ advantage which seems to ░░░░░░░░ in cities Progressive though ░░░░░░░░ hold the cities and ░░░░░░░░ continue to vote that ░░░░░░░░ We saw that recently ░░░░░░░░ the mayoral election in ░░░░░░░░ where a guy even ░░░░░░░░ to the left than ░░░░░░░░ Lightfoot won that I ░░░░░░░░ Carol shaking her head ░░░░░░░░ is from Chicago So ░░░░░░░░ is you know Democrats ░░░░░░░░ be satisfied they hold ░░░░░░░░ cities Will that be ░░░░░░░░ in the 2024 election ░░░░░░░░ have to reach beyond ░░░░░░░░ urban base The key ░░░░░░░░ going to be the ░░░░░░░░ Given what DeSantis is ░░░░░░░░ on abortion open carry ░░░░░░░░ the fact that the ░░░░░░░░ have not moderated a ░░░░░░░░ of their positions I ░░░░░░░░ it is going to ░░░░░░░░ a very close election ░░░░░░░░ very similar to 2020 ░░░░░░░░ is what the polls ░░░░░░░░ telling me today David ░░░░░░░░ right Great panel Thank ░░░░░░░░ so much for being ░░░░░░░░ Great stuff, guys.