Bill McGurn: RFK Jr. ‘Likely to Take Biden Votes’ as He Announces VP Pick

MacCALLUM All right you ░░░░░░░░ been watching this but ░░░░░░░░ want to bring in ░░░░░░░░ McGurn Wall Street Journal ░░░░░░░░ board member and Fox ░░░░░░░░ contributor Clay Travis Outkick ░░░░░░░░ and Mark Penn Stagwell ░░░░░░░░ and former Clinton advisor ░░░░░░░░ pollster Great to have ░░░░░░░░ of you with us ░░░░░░░░ want to get just ░░░░░░░░ quick take from each ░░░░░░░░ you on this announcement ░░░░░░░░ what you think it ░░░░░░░░ Bill McGurn let s ░░░░░░░░ with you McGURN Well ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ as you mentioned He ░░░░░░░░ between 9 18 And ░░░░░░░░ big question is who ░░░░░░░░ takes that from I ░░░░░░░░ in the beginning when ░░░░░░░░ announced there was a ░░░░░░░░ he was thinking the ░░░░░░░░ votes and I think ░░░░░░░░ the polls sort of ░░░░░░░░ more likely to take ░░░░░░░░ votes I don t ░░░░░░░░ this extraordinarily because he ░░░░░░░░ basically a liberal progressive ░░░░░░░░ a few notes that ░░░░░░░░ conservatives like against Big ░░░░░░░░ and so forth But ░░░░░░░░ big issue is the ░░░░░░░░ and so forth and ░░░░░░░░ think he s a ░░░░░░░░ progressive and he picked ░░░░░░░░ like that to be ░░░░░░░░ running mate MacCALLUM Clay ░░░░░░░░ me bring you in ░░░░░░░░ know he talks about ░░░░░░░░ agencies governmental agencies not ░░░░░░░░ what we all thought ░░░░░░░░ were supposed to be ░░░░░░░░ doing what they re ░░░░░░░░ to do and wanting ░░░░░░░░ take that power back ░░░░░░░░ the government in that ░░░░░░░░ What do you think ░░░░░░░░ that and what do ░░░░░░░░ think about this decision ░░░░░░░░ I actually think he ░░░░░░░░ Trump voters away And ░░░░░░░░ may be a counter ░░░░░░░░ take by the way ░░░░░░░░ may be the case ░░░░░░░░ in California he takes ░░░░░░░░ that are different in ░░░░░░░░ or Wisconsin or Georgia ░░░░░░░░ Arizona where the swing ░░░░░░░░ are which is really ░░░░░░░░ he could be impactful ░░░░░░░░ mentioned earlier Ross Perot ░░░░░░░░ 1992 and I remember ░░░░░░░░ well watching Bill Clinton ░░░░░░░░ Ross Perot on every ░░░░░░░░ stage because the data ░░░░░░░░ that he helped Clinton ░░░░░░░░ hurt George H W ░░░░░░░░ I think we ll ░░░░░░░░ to get a little ░░░░░░░░ of clarity on how ░░░░░░░░ Jr Is polling based ░░░░░░░░ whether Trump and Biden ░░░░░░░░ now I agree that ░░░░░░░░ seems more reticent about ░░░░░░░░ wants him involved in ░░░░░░░░ overall political process And ░░░░░░░░ wonder also whether RFK ░░░░░░░░ Is open to the ░░░░░░░░ of being maybe part ░░░░░░░░ a Trump cabinet I ░░░░░░░░ t think Biden would ░░░░░░░░ him in a cabinet ░░░░░░░░ think Trump might What ░░░░░░░░ his real goal here ░░░░░░░░ s not going to ░░░░░░░░ the election At some ░░░░░░░░ that becomes a reality ░░░░░░░░ then how does he ░░░░░░░░ with all the other ░░░░░░░░ party candidates Cornel West ░░░░░░░░ there s a No ░░░░░░░░ candidate Jill Stein how ░░░░░░░░ all of those interacts ░░░░░░░░ people have five six ░░░░░░░░ choices on their ballot ░░░░░░░░ they go to vote ░░░░░░░░ November MacCALLUM Well there ░░░░░░░░ no doubt Jen Psaki ░░░░░░░░ that this is a ░░░░░░░░ issue that the Democrat ░░░░░░░░ needs to be very ░░░░░░░░ about Mark Penn If ░░░░░░░░ talk to Bobby Kennedy ░░░░░░░░ he says Look all ░░░░░░░░ need is 34 In ░░░░░░░░ polling he says he ░░░░░░░░ at 18 20 in ░░░░░░░░ range You know he ░░░░░░░░ like I only have ░░░░░░░░ grow 15 in order ░░░░░░░░ really be a player ░░░░░░░░ the swing states according ░░░░░░░░ their polling And we ░░░░░░░░ seen some strength that ░░░░░░░░ has in some of ░░░░░░░░ swing states So what ░░░░░░░░ you say Mark Penn ░░░░░░░░ we did a poll ░░░░░░░░ two days ago and ░░░░░░░░ Jill Stein or Cornel ░░░░░░░░ they get 1 and ░░░░░░░░ do take that 1 ░░░░░░░░ Democrats Kennedy got like ░░░░░░░░ That means he could ░░░░░░░░ a real factor here ░░░░░░░░ these things announce and ░░░░░░░░ could a month from ░░░░░░░░ flopped down to 3 ░░░░░░░░ ve seen that before ░░░░░░░░ soar as Ross Perot ░░░░░░░░ to 39 in June ░░░░░░░░ there is an opening ░░░░░░░░ It s a bit ░░░░░░░░ unconventional speech but he ░░░░░░░░ anti Big Tech he ░░░░░░░░ anti big government he ░░░░░░░░ anti censorship he s ░░░░░░░░ big corporation He is ░░░░░░░░ pure environment He had ░░░░░░░░ message he was delivering ░░░░░░░░ and now he has ░░░░░░░░ funding So you know ░░░░░░░░ are going to have ░░░░░░░░ wait and see and ░░░░░░░░ this parlor game of ░░░░░░░░ it hurts and who ░░░░░░░░ helps He s taking ░░░░░░░░ equally a little bit ░░░░░░░░ from Biden because it ░░░░░░░░ the horse race Trump ░░░░░░░░ winning by 2 it ░░░░░░░░ to 3 or 4 ░░░░░░░░ that is not necessarily ░░░░░░░░ this is going to ░░░░░░░░ itself out You ve ░░░░░░░░ to wait and see ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Well you ve ░░░░░░░░ a bunch of Jets ░░░░░░░░ breathing a sigh of ░░░░░░░░ and hoping that Aaron ░░░░░░░░ is back in fall ░░░░░░░░ not on the VP ░░░░░░░░ trail with RFK Jr ░░░░░░░░ thank you very much ░░░░░░░░ to have you with ░░░░░░░░ today We ll keep ░░░░░░░░ eye on this and ░░░░░░░░ for weighing in we ░░░░░░░░ it.”