RUSH TRANSCRIPT Off Excuse ░░░░░░░░ to kick off this ░░░░░░░░ big our of the ░░░░░░░░ we are rejoined once ░░░░░░░░ by Claire morrell of ░░░░░░░░ ethics and public policy ░░░░░░░░ she s a policy ░░░░░░░░ with the ethics and ░░░░░░░░ policy center were going ░░░░░░░░ talk about the the ░░░░░░░░ a Big Tech and ░░░░░░░░ or not they should ░░░░░░░░ treated as the new ░░░░░░░░ tobacco Claire good morning ░░░░░░░░ back to keto beauty ░░░░░░░░ thank you you match ░░░░░░░░ having me back hey ░░░░░░░░ So before we dig ░░░░░░░░ this I don t ░░░░░░░░ if I asked you ░░░░░░░░ last time and I ░░░░░░░░ you explain for our ░░░░░░░░ out what is the ░░░░░░░░ and public policy center ░░░░░░░░ s your mission what ░░░░░░░░ all focus on Narrow ░░░░░░░░ crafting and there we ░░░░░░░░ a judeo Christian neck ░░░░░░░░ think kink in the ░░░░░░░░ Poppy be and how ░░░░░░░░ are working on issues ░░░░░░░░ to pro life pro ░░░░░░░░ traditional the that marriage ░░░░░░░░ gender and really that ░░░░░░░░ why we think 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