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Clare Morrell Appears on ‘Wake Up Springfield with Tim Jones’ To Discuss Big Tech & Disinformation
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Wake Up Springfield with Tim Jones

Name: Wake Up Springfield with Tim Jones


Clare Morrell

Name: Clare Morrell

Employment: Ethics and Public Policy Center

Position: Policy Analyst

Event location
08/24/2022 02:29 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Big Tech ░░░░░░░░ s bring in our ░░░░░░░░ guest She is Claire ░░░░░░░░ policy Analyst at the ░░░░░░░░ and public policy center ░░░░░░░░ works on e p ░░░░░░░░ c s Big Tech ░░░░░░░░ She worked in both ░░░░░░░░ White House counsel s ░░░░░░░░ and at the Department ░░░░░░░░ Justice Her work has ░░░░░░░░ in The Wall Street ░░░░░░░░ the Washington times newsweek ░░░░░░░░ federal national review she ░░░░░░░░ appeared on all the ░░░░░░░░ news networks all across ░░░░░░░░ country and she s ░░░░░░░░ with us here now ░░░░░░░░ k w t o ░░░░░░░░ good morning to you ░░░░░░░░ for joining us here ░░░░░░░░ morning In mining can ░░░░░░░░ for having me Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ clearly that s kind ░░░░░░░░ reset the the apple ░░░░░░░░ here and talk about ░░░░░░░░ know where are we ░░░░░░░░ days with Republicans with ░░░░░░░░ libertarianism and Big Tech ░░░░░░░░ is a sticky wicket ░░░░░░░░ t it I mean ░░░░░░░░ of us on the ░░░░░░░░ right side of the ░░░░░░░░ spectrum We love technology ░░░░░░░░ love innovation we love ░░░░░░░░ we love the free ░░░░░░░░ but often at times ░░░░░░░░ It seems that when ░░░░░░░░ comes to Big Tech ░░░░░░░░ Tech has just become ░░░░░░░░ clause I governmental entity ░░░░░░░░ doing the work of ░░░░░░░░ bidding of their masters ░░░░░░░░ the big government and ░░░░░░░░ big media space Yes ░░░░░░░░ s exactly right and ░░░░░░░░ increase Our conversations can ░░░░░░░░ having on the right ░░░░░░░░ now because you re ░░░░░░░░ traditionally Republicans like to ░░░░░░░░ the free market to ░░░░░░░░ out different problems We ░░░░░░░░ ate you know let ░░░░░░░░ free market called neck ░░░░░░░░ s not intervene Government ░░░░░░░░ just make it worse ░░░░░░░░ when it comes to ░░░░░░░░ pack you re right ░░░░░░░░ see first of all ░░░░░░░░ they are any tension ░░░░░░░░ way the big government ░░░░░░░░ seem the Biden Administration ░░░░░░░░ colluding with the Big ░░░░░░░░ companies percent their quote ░░░░░░░░ leak information and back ░░░░░░░░ Missouri attorney general 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take on ░░░░░░░░ right case and address ░░░░░░░░ of those issues that ░░░░░░░░ really do need Congress ░░░░░░░░ desert and an update ░░░░░░░░ law Absolutely cannot agree ░░░░░░░░ you more clear morales ░░░░░░░░ Ethics and public policy ░░░░░░░░ you can find her ░░░░░░░░ Claire morel e p ░░░░░░░░ c sir thanks So ░░░░░░░░ for all The great ░░░░░░░░ will appreciate you joining ░░░░░░░░ this morning Thanks for ░░░░░░░░ me Absolutely indeed and ░░░░░░░░ three three and
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