RUSH TRANSCRIPT Joining me ░░░░░░░░ MSNBC justice and security ░░░░░░░░ the former chief spokesperson ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Justice ░░░░░░░░ President Obama How significant ░░░░░░░░ this As someone moo ░░░░░░░░ a former federal prosecutor ░░░░░░░░ indicates that Mueller and ░░░░░░░░ agents believe that there ░░░░░░░░ probable cause to believe ░░░░░░░░ crime had been sxlitd ░░░░░░░░ evidence was in Paul ░░░░░░░░ s hole They had ░░░░░░░░ go to a judge ░░░░░░░░ federal judge and get ░░░░░░░░ s approval of that ░░░░░░░░ Which means judge agreed ░░░░░░░░ the same conclusion So ░░░░░░░░ is very surprising This ░░░░░░░░ the third time you ░░░░░░░░ a federal judge indicate ░░░░░░░░ he believed there was ░░░░░░░░ reason to believe a ░░░░░░░░ had occurred And that ░░░░░░░░ of it was in ░░░░░░░░ Manafort s home You ░░░░░░░░ on Twitter a little ░░░░░░░░ ago that this was ░░░░░░░░ of how quickly it ░░░░░░░░ going You said that ░░░░░░░░ may already have the ░░░░░░░░ s At a the ░░░░░░░░ s tax returns Anyone ░░░░░░░░ knows Bob Mueller knows ░░░░░░░░ he is not a ░░░░░░░░ who let the grass ░░░░░░░░ under his feet He ░░░░░░░░ two grand juries He ░░░░░░░░ executed this dramatic raid ░░░░░░░░ Paul Manafort s house ░░░░░░░░ than issuing a subpoena ░░░░░░░░ think what we have ░░░░░░░░ assume from Mueller is ░░░░░░░░ he is pursuing this ░░░░░░░░ as quickly as he ░░░░░░░░ as aggressively as he ░░░░░░░░ through every channel that ░░░░░░░░ can One of those ░░░░░░░░ would be getting the ░░░░░░░░ s tax returns You ░░░░░░░░ about going to a ░░░░░░░░ to show probable cause ░░░░░░░░ there is evidence of ░░░░░░░░ crime to execute the ░░░░░░░░ warrant That s a ░░░░░░░░ standard than he would ░░░░░░░░ to obtain the president ░░░░░░░░ tax returns You have ░░░░░░░░ show the judge Take ░░░░░░░░ through the reasoning if ░░░░░░░░ had someone who is ░░░░░░░░ target investigation or someone ░░░░░░░░ in an investigation target ░░░░░░░░ a slightly technical term ░░░░░░░░ you re talking to ░░░░░░░░ a federal prosecutor you ░░░░░░░░ documents from they will ░░░░░░░░ have fancy lawyers saying ░░░░░░░░ are cooperating What is ░░░░░░░░ tiger to go from ░░░░░░░░ to 12 armed agents ░░░░░░░░ flak jackets at their ░░░░░░░░ in the middle of ░░░░░░░░ night That s an ░░░░░░░░ question The usual course ░░░░░░░░ sacks to use a ░░░░░░░░ To send a subpoena ░░░░░░░░ the lawyers They re ░░░░░░░░ to spend the hours ░░░░░░░░ through documents collecting them ░░░░░░░░ putting they will all ░░░░░░░░ an organized way Putting ░░░░░░░░ in a file that ░░░░░░░░ can read or search ░░░░░░░░ go send agents in ░░░░░░░░ conduct a search warrant ░░░░░░░░ seize documents is a ░░░░░░░░ aggressive step What I ░░░░░░░░ what it suggests to ░░░░░░░░ is that Bob Mueller ░░░░░░░░ his team believed they ░░░░░░░░ not have received the ░░░░░░░░ information if they had ░░░░░░░░ it via subpoena So ░░░░░░░░ meebls they re either ░░░░░░░░ about documents being destroyed ░░░░░░░░ altered They re concerns ░░░░░░░░ will not get the ░░░░░░░░ information It also strikes ░░░░░░░░ that Flynn and always ░░░░░░░░ at the forefront of ░░░░░░░░ And they re ones ░░░░░░░░ the most legal peril ░░░░░░░░ do you think this ░░░░░░░░ their calculations of their ░░░░░░░░ terms of how cooperative ░░░░░░░░ be Yeah They re ░░░░░░░░ a little dilemma They ░░░░░░░░ each in the sail ░░░░░░░░ They have three possible ░░░░░░░░ One to continue to ░░░░░░░░ their innocence and fight ░░░░░░░░ indicted Two is to ░░░░░░░░ There s usual lay ░░░░░░░░ ticket for the first ░░░░░░░░ cooperate so I think ░░░░░░░░ ll be eyeing each ░░░░░░░░ Wondering who will get ░░░░░░░░ chance for reduced sentence ░░░░░░░░ no jail time The ░░░░░░░░ is to drag your ░░░░░░░░ and hope you get ░░░░░░░░ pardon from the White ░░░░░░░░ That s a lot ░░░░░░░░ ask from the White ░░░░░░░░ It might be the ░░░░░░░░ way out for both ░░░░░░░░ them This may be ░░░░░░░░ naive question Indulge it ░░░░░░░░ someone was involved in ░░░░░░░░ conspiracy that appears to ░░░░░░░░ what is being investigated ░░░░░░░░ would they just keep ░░░░░░░░ documents in their house ░░░░░░░░ seems unlikely if you ░░░░░░░░ doing the thing you ░░░░░░░░ be accused of doing ░░░░░░░░ would have incriminating documents ░░░░░░░░ your house They had ░░░░░░░░ show the judge not ░░░░░░░░ was there a crime ░░░░░░░░ they had to show ░░░░░░░░ judge and convince the ░░░░░░░░ that there would be ░░░░░░░░ in that mouse would ░░░░░░░░ evidence of a crime ░░░░░░░░ they convinced the judge ░░░░░░░░ that And some people ░░░░░░░░ me on Twitter today ░░░░░░░░ was a lot of ░░░░░░░░ about wouldn t somebody ░░░░░░░░ destroy everything And I ░░░░░░░░ tell you I m ░░░░░░░░ Paul Manafort hs good ░░░░░░░░ I would say don ░░░░░░░░ destroy anything that would ░░░░░░░░ evidence of your guilt ░░░░░░░░ that leaves finger prints ░░░░░░░░ and has duplicates There ░░░░░░░░ no question that Bob ░░░░░░░░ and his team have ░░░░░░░░ evidence to suggest that ░░░░░░░░ was keeping stuff at ░░░░░░░░ In showing the judge ░░░░░░░░ isn t just that ░░░░░░░░ crime was committed but ░░░░░░░░ cause that there are ░░░░░░░░ in the house that ░░░░░░░░ are serving the search ░░░░░░░░ on that would be ░░░░░░░░ of said crime And ░░░░░░░░ things So financial documents ░░░░░░░░ specify they will in ░░░░░░░░ warrants Who does that ░░░░░░░░ I don t keep ░░░░░░░░ my house all sorts ░░░░░░░░ complex financial records I ░░░░░░░░ most people do So ░░░░░░░░ had to believe he ░░░░░░░░ bringing that home for ░░░░░░░░ reason Thank you both ░░░░░░░░ up the ties that ░░░░░░░░ the current president to ░░░░░░░░ man