NY Sheriff on Refusing to Enforce Cuomo’s Holiday Restrictions: ‘It’s Unconstitutional’

KEILAR After Governor Cuomo ░░░░░░░░ a new order that ░░░░░░░░ limit private parties to ░░░░░░░░ people the sheriff in ░░░░░░░░ County took to social ░░░░░░░░ declaring he would not ░░░░░░░░ it Fulton County is ░░░░░░░░ upstate New York and ░░░░░░░░ sheriff Richard Giardino is ░░░░░░░░ of at least three ░░░░░░░░ York state sheriffs now ░░░░░░░░ they re not going ░░░░░░░░ enforce the Governor s ░░░░░░░░ Sheriff Giardino is joining ░░░░░░░░ now to talk about ░░░░░░░░ Sheriff I m so ░░░░░░░░ that you re with ░░░░░░░░ I imagine that enforcing ░░░░░░░░ order like this is ░░░░░░░░ that would pose some ░░░░░░░░ but you also of ░░░░░░░░ have critics who say ░░░░░░░░ should be doing it ░░░░░░░░ say you re not ░░░░░░░░ to enforce the order ░░░░░░░░ limits gatherings to 10 ░░░░░░░░ Tell us why GIARDINO ░░░░░░░░ I say I can ░░░░░░░░ enforce the order because ░░░░░░░░ think it s unconstitutional ░░░░░░░░ in order to explain ░░░░░░░░ it s unconstitutional I ░░░░░░░░ have to take a ░░░░░░░░ Brianna and explain what ░░░░░░░░ can do Constitution and ░░░░░░░░ of Rights allows a ░░░░░░░░ act for the safety ░░░░░░░░ the society and limiting ░░░░░░░░ liberty So let me ░░░░░░░░ you the easiest example ░░░░░░░░ can t yell fire ░░░░░░░░ a crowded movie theater ░░░░░░░░ there s not a ░░░░░░░░ And so the government ░░░░░░░░ limit your First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ of speech rights But ░░░░░░░░ the case law and ░░░░░░░░ the Constitution the governor ░░░░░░░░ has a right to ░░░░░░░░ how many people can ░░░░░░░░ to a bar or ░░░░░░░░ restaurant wearing face masks ░░░░░░░░ public buildings in private ░░░░░░░░ He can also limit ░░░░░░░░ time they must close ░░░░░░░░ that s because he ░░░░░░░░ got administrative agencies like ░░░░░░░░ State Liquor Authority the ░░░░░░░░ Health Department Those agencies ░░░░░░░░ licenses and have control ░░░░░░░░ private and public institutions ░░░░░░░░ businesses So he s ░░░░░░░░ to do that especially ░░░░░░░░ a corona CV 19 ░░░░░░░░ that we all know ░░░░░░░░ deadly I don t ░░░░░░░░ the loss of people ░░░░░░░░ those who get sick ░░░░░░░░ under the Constitution the ░░░░░░░░ is very vague and ░░░░░░░░ says 10 or less ░░░░░░░░ is the most you ░░░░░░░░ have in your private ░░░░░░░░ Well I don t ░░░░░░░░ that the Constitution allows ░░░░░░░░ the infringement of your ░░░░░░░░ the number of people ░░░░░░░░ have in your own ░░░░░░░░ So I start at ░░░░░░░░ position So he has ░░░░░░░░ to do a lot ░░░░░░░░ not to tell us ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement to go ░░░░░░░░ people s house and ░░░░░░░░ who s there In ░░░░░░░░ to get into somebody ░░░░░░░░ house you have to ░░░░░░░░ probable cause for search ░░░░░░░░ you have to have ░░░░░░░░ or emergency purpose None ░░░░░░░░ those exist The other ░░░░░░░░ is the governor has ░░░░░░░░ authority under the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ case law to quarantine ░░░░░░░░ into their own homes ░░░░░░░░ if they don t ░░░░░░░░ he can get a ░░░░░░░░ order to quarantine them ░░░░░░░░ hospital or other locations ░░░░░░░░ I want to just ░░░░░░░░ the land out a ░░░░░░░░ bit because my position ░░░░░░░░ a sheriff is I ░░░░░░░░ the same oath the ░░░░░░░░ did to support and ░░░░░░░░ the Constitution of the ░░░░░░░░ States and the state ░░░░░░░░ New York and to ░░░░░░░░ defend that Constitution I ░░░░░░░░ t take any issue ░░░░░░░░ the Governor s intent ░░░░░░░░ believe the Governor s ░░░░░░░░ is to do what ░░░░░░░░ thinks is best under ░░░░░░░░ circumstances but as a ░░░░░░░░ constitutional officer I have ░░░░░░░░ obligation to the constituents ░░░░░░░░ my county to follow ░░░░░░░░ law KEILAR And look ░░░░░░░░ think very clearly you ░░░░░░░░ very earnestly about that ░░░░░░░░ want to play devil ░░░░░░░░ advocate a little bit ░░░░░░░░ GIARDINO That s fine ░░░░░░░░ Someone might look at ░░░░░░░░ and say you know ░░░░░░░░ you have a lot ░░░░░░░░ people in a home ░░░░░░░░ you re causing community ░░░░░░░░ beyond that home You ░░░░░░░░ t expect if you ░░░░░░░░ in your home and ░░░░░░░░ were harming somebody to ░░░░░░░░ able to get legal ░░░░░░░░ You know what would ░░░░░░░░ say to an argument ░░░░░░░░ that You re not ░░░░░░░░ you re not permitted ░░░░░░░░ the law just because ░░░░░░░░ s in your home ░░░░░░░░ you can harm someone ░░░░░░░░ do a number of ░░░░░░░░ that could cause danger ░░░░░░░░ people beyond your home ░░░░░░░░ I like your argument ░░░░░░░░ you have to remember ░░░░░░░░ a couple of things ░░░░░░░░ going on First of ░░░░░░░░ he s limited it ░░░░░░░░ 10 or fewer people ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ in various countries and ░░░░░░░░ our state various areas ░░░░░░░░ the country that may ░░░░░░░░ an extended family living ░░░░░░░░ them Grandparents daughters and ░░░░░░░░ boyfriends and girlfriends parents ░░░░░░░░ what if you have ░░░░░░░░ household that has 11 ░░░░░░░░ who live there year ░░░░░░░░ You have to kick ░░░░░░░░ of those people out ░░░░░░░░ It makes no sense ░░░░░░░░ and is indefensible in ░░░░░░░░ courtroom The other component ░░░░░░░░ you mention it s ░░░░░░░░ is this pick a ░░░░░░░░ of 10 What s ░░░░░░░░ difference between 10 and ░░░░░░░░ One person Does one ░░░░░░░░ person make it any ░░░░░░░░ deadly the virus Because ░░░░░░░░ instance if there s ░░░░░░░░ people and nobody has ░░░░░░░░ and nobody s asymptomatic ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ it If there s ░░░░░░░░ people and one of ░░░░░░░░ has it then he ░░░░░░░░ she may spread it ░░░░░░░░ the other three So ░░░░░░░░ numbers are kind of ░░░░░░░░ and random I guess ░░░░░░░░ I m saying is ░░░░░░░░ I think that it ░░░░░░░░ a chill to the ░░░░░░░░ and people in my ░░░░░░░░ if they think that ░░░░░░░░ enforcement s going to ░░░░░░░░ on their door count ░░░░░░░░ number of family members ░░░░░░░░ arrest them We don ░░░░░░░░ have arrest authority under ░░░░░░░░ executive order So I ░░░░░░░░ that I have to ░░░░░░░░ you why I posted ░░░░░░░░ I bumped into a ░░░░░░░░ he had a veterans ░░░░░░░░ cap out and he ░░░░░░░░ to me outside of ░░░░░░░░ convenience store he said ░░░░░░░░ my wife and I ░░░░░░░░ arguing about going to ░░░░░░░░ family Thanksgiving dinner at ░░░░░░░░ son s house There ░░░░░░░░ 14 of us including ░░░░░░░░ granD C hild we ░░░░░░░░ t met And he ░░░░░░░░ My wife is afraid ░░░░░░░░ the police are going ░░░░░░░░ come and ticket my ░░░░░░░░ and create a problem ░░░░░░░░ him at work and ░░░░░░░░ him And I said ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ Under the executive order ░░░░░░░░ don t have the ░░░░░░░░ nor does anyone else ░░░░░░░░ fine somebody or for ░░░░░░░░ more than 10 people ░░░░░░░░ your home or to ░░░░░░░░ them But it makes ░░░░░░░░ heavy handed instead of ░░░░░░░░ people to comply KEILAR ░░░░░░░░ you re not taking ░░░░░░░░ with the fact that ░░░░░░░░ start getting multiple units ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ spirit of the law ░░░░░░░░ to tackle families where ░░░░░░░░ are 11 people living ░░░░░░░░ a roof right it ░░░░░░░░ about maybe larger groups ░░░░░░░░ people who are gathering ░░░░░░░░ are in multiple households ░░░░░░░░ look Sheriff Giardino I ░░░░░░░░ appreciate the conversation Thank ░░░░░░░░ so much for coming ░░░░░░░░ and discussing this with ░░░░░░░░