Sen. Heitkamp: Dems Need To Live in the Real World When It Comes to Energy Policy

EXCERPT:

KERNEN: "Senator, do you -- as a Democrat, I mean, do you think that the -- what I would call somewhat radical activist energy policy, climate policy, is it served your party well over the last 8 years? And does that anything to do with the -- with the devastating losses in the last election?"
HEITKAMP: "I think -- I think when you look at it, it is so critically important that we live in the real world and that we're not live in the world of ideology."