Richard Burr: S.B. Terrorists ‘Didn’t Just Overnight Learn How to Make 19 Pipe Bombs’

‘Clearly we now know that these individuals were radicalized way before probably as early as 2010 for him and 2012 for her’

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DICKERSON: "We’re back with Richard burr. Senator I want to talk about these investigations. The FBI searching, you’re in a lake near San Bernardino near the scene of the terror attack. What have they found, what are they looking for?"
BURR: "They’re looking for anything that would give us a clue of the digital footprint of these two individuals who they talk to, where they went. They were gone between the attack and the time law enforcement engaged them. They were on the move for three and a half to four hours and trying to sort of fill in the blanks, where were they. Using cameras from the city itself from, convenience stores, trying to recreate exactly where they went, who they might have talked to. 
DICKERSON: "Investigators trying to recreate what they were doing in two years before actual attack. What do we know about what the plot appear to be two years in the making or previous plots they might have been involved in."
BURR: "Clearly we now know that these individuals were radicalized way before probably as early as 2010 for him. And 2012 for her. We want to look at how our immigration process, Visa for spouse broke down this they didn’t notice the radicalization. More importantly what we’ve got to know is who they might have had conversations with relative to their planning, access to the weapons. They didn’t just overnight learn how to make 19 pipe bombs." 
DICKERSON: "That’s right. And there was a lot of conversation, but his wife satheen Malik online, social media, that was missed? Was that missed it was missed obviously. Should there be something more done in terms of monitoring social media?"
BURR: "John, today we don’t know how much that have might have happened in closed-in systems, encrypted. Closed end to end. And what we’ve seen with Paris and now with San bernadino, terrorists who are committed to destroy their digital footprint to, destroy phones, to take hard drives, I’m sure that the FBI was in the lake trying to find if there was any that have electronic media in the lake. That they can go and trace the conversation, is that took place. Let me just say today, encryption is becoming more and more problem with our ability to see inside of the communications of individuals both in the United States with each other and with people abroad."
DICKERSON: "It seems like there are two issues. One is conversations having just out in the open but there are so many going on and can you take social media conversation and trace that back, might just be somebody blowing off steam that’s one thing that seems to have been missed here. Not all this was encrypted. It doesn’t seem like any evidence that it was." 
BURR: "Understand we have two people who legitimately, legally were in the United States, one lived here for years. Nobody on a watch list, no fly list. How would we have detected them unless a neighbor had raised an issue with law enforcement."
DICKERSON: "Right. In social media may not be possible to find — let’s talk about encryption. Do you want to do something, silicon valley companies say that you can’t create a back door that gets — encrypted system that has back door for law enforcement also creates back door that makes your encrypted information vulnerable."
BURR: "John we changed, were talking about terrorism or pedophilia and the FBI is trying to make a law enforcement case against somebody sending photographs of a kid to another pedophile. Would we want — legitimate court order to be able to make that case based upon what they were transferring in encrypted networks. The answer is, yes. By the same token if we have legitimate core report — report order that law enforcement can act to look at the communications, I believe that’s probably I believe that it’s absolutely needed in the future regardless of what the investigation might be in titled to."

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