Clinton: We Need To Work with the Russians on ISIS and Assad

ROSE: "Tell me how serious the threat of ISIS is and at what level do we decide will do everything we have to do to stop them?"

CLINTON: "Well, I think we'd have to have is our objective, their defeat. I think you have to fight them in the air, you have to fight them on the ground and you have to fight them in cyber space. Now are you facing an even more barbaric enemy, which has more money and now controls territory. We need to get over the false choice between either going after Assad or going after ISIS."

ROSE: "Yeah. [indecipherable] understand that, because everybody is talking about that."

CLINTON: "Yeah. You know --"

ROSE: "How do you do both?"

CLINTON: "Well, I think you do both by making it cleared and bringing the Russians in. you know, the Russians have now paid a big price because of the bomb and their jet from Sharm El-Sheikh. So, they've lost people to ISIS. I think you say, look, we need your -- it's not your active help, your acquiescence in what we're going to, going after ISIS. So that means will you're going to have pull back from this area while we go after their leadership and their economic infrastructure. But if you want to be a part of that, we would welcome you. And you have a dog in this hunt now, because you are worried about what's happening in a caucuses. You are worried about ISIS spreading its ideology. Right now we're not going to see a military defeat of Assad."

ROSE: "So --"

CLINTON: "That's not going to happen. It might have been possible a few years ago. It's not going to happen now."