Sanders, Clinton Refuse to Use the Term ‘Radical Islam’

DICKERSON: "Secretary Clinton, you mentioned radical jihadists."
CLINTON: "Yes."
DICKERSON: "Marco Rubio, also running for president, said that this attack showed-- in-- the attack in Paris showed that we are at war with radical Islam. Do you agree with that characterization, radical Islam?"
CLINTON: "I don't think we're at war with Islam. I don't think we at war with all Muslims. I think we're at war with jihadists who have --"
DICKERSON: "Just to interrupt, he-- he didn't say all Muslims. He just said radical Islam. Is that a phrase you don't --"
CLINTON: "I-- I think that you can-- you can talk about Islamists who-- clearly are also jihadists. But I think it's-- it-- it's not particularly helpful to make the case that-- Senator Sanders was just making that I agree with that we've gotta reach out to Muslim countries. We've gotta have them be part of our coalition. If they hear people running for-- president who basically shortcut it to say we are somehow against Islam-- that was one of the real contributions-- despite all the other problems that George W. Bush made after 9/11 when he basically said after going to a mosque in Washington, 'We are not at war with Islam or Muslims. We are at war with violent extremism. We are at war with people who use their religion for purposes of power and oppression.' And yes, we are at war with those people that I don't want us to be painting with too brand a brush -- " [crosstalk]
DICKERSON: "The reason I ask is that you gave a speech at Georgetown University in which you said that it was important to show-- quote-- respect even for one's enemy. Trying to understand and in so far as psychologically possible empathize with their perspective and point of view. Can you explain what that means in the context of this kind of barbarism?"
CLINTON: "I think with this kind of barbarism and nihilism-- it's very hard to understand other than the lust for power, the rejection of  [indecipherable], the total disregard for human life-- freedom or any other value that we know and-- respect. Historically it is important to try to understand your adversary in order to figure out how they are thinking, what they will be doing, how they will react. I-- I plead (?)-- that it's very difficult when you deal with-- ISIS and organizations like that whose-- whose behavior is so barbaric and so vicious-- that it doesn't seem to have any purpose other than lust for killing and power. And that's very difficult to put ourselves in other shoes." [crosstalk]
DICKERSON: "Very quickly, do either of you-- radical Islam, do either of you use that-- [crosstalk] --phrase?"
SANDERS: "I don't think the term is what's important. What is important to understand is we have organizations, whether it is ISIS or Al Qaeda who do believe we should go back several thousand years, we should make women third-class citizens, that we should allow children to be sexually assaulted, that they are a danger to modern society. And that this world with American leadership can and must come together to destroy them. We can do that."
O'MALLEY: "John --"
SANDERS: "And it requires an entire will to come together including, in a very active way, the Muslim nations."