Giuliani: ‘Hillary Needs a Really Good Criminal Lawyer’

HANNITY: “Pretty interesting. We're following it. Thanks, Ainsley. And joining us now with more reaction, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani. All right, Sanders, the curmudgeon -- (laughter) --you know, cranky old 73-year-old socialist, up by 10 in Iowa, 22 in New Hampshire! And get this. Her support in The Washington Post/ABC poll has gone down 21 percent among Democrats to a low of 42 percent. What do you make of this?”

GIULIANI: “Well, what I make of it is that she's in serious trouble. And watching her campaign deal with it as a campaign issue, to me, as a person who's been a lawyer a lot longer than a politician, is a terrible mistake. Hillary needs a really good criminal lawyer.”

HANNITY: “Yes.”

GIULIANI: “I mean, she is – she –“

HANNITY: “This is important because I've been quoting –“

GIULIANI: “She's in serious jeopardy.”

HANNITY: “Explain.”

GIULIANI: “Well, there are any number of statutes that, if you take the facts as true -- and again, they may not be -- you would have a prima facie case. The whole UVS (ph) situation, conflict of interest, possible bribery, possible explanation for why she deleted the e-mails, which you could argue to a jury as an inference of guilty knowledge because if there's any communication between her and anyone from the Clinton -- Bill Clinton side, where they were getting $1.2 million in speaker's fees, $600,000 to then –“

HANNITY: “Foundation.”

GIULIANI: “-- to the foundation, then $30 million loan to the foundation, any connection at all, you got a bribery case. But you got a conflict of interest case just to start. And you can use that wiping out of e-mails -- you would get a charge to the jury that that creates the possibility of an inference of guilty knowledge.”

HANNITY: “So this goes deeper than the Espionage Act. This goes deeper than inappropriate handling of classified materials.”

GIULIANI: “Well, there's also a statute that makes you responsible for grossly negligent handling of sensitive government information. Now, tell me that, from what we've heard, she wasn't grossly negligent –“ [Crosstalk]

HANNITY: “-- in a bathroom of a mom and pop shop?”

GIULIANI: “That nobody's ever heard of.”

HANNITY: “Nobody's ever heard of.”

GIULIANI: “And that one is a -- that's a fairly small statute. I think that's a misdemeanor. But it's still a year or two in jail. Now, if you also find on that server, which apparently wasn't wiped out with a cloth, as Hillary said. Or anything else, it wasn't –“

HANNITY: “You mean with a cloth?” (Laughter)

GIULIANI: “But if you find on there, classified information, now you got some very serious –“

HANNITY: “Classified, or information she was hiding from the Benghazi Select Committee or information related to the Clinton Foundation.”

GIULIANI: “Then you have obstruction of justice. I mean, we can go on and on and on.”

HANNITY: “So talk about this because if the server company says it wasn't wiped clean, I got to believe forensics, computer forensics experts –“

GIULIANI: “Well, you got one or two possibilities, right?”

HANNITY: “At the FBI –“

GIULIANI: “It wasn't wiped clean and we're going to get it, or somebody else did. Who?”

HANNITY: “Russian. The Russians.”

GIULIANI: “Yeah, but who? But who wiped it clean? Who did it?”

HANNITY: “Well, that's the next question.”

GIULIANI: “Yes. And do the Russians, do the Chinese, do just hackers have a good many of these things? This is a story that has only begun.”

HANNITY: “But the odds of the Obama administration and the Justice Department indicting her are limited as they try to make a justification last week that it was OK that she had a private server for the first time.”

GIULIANI: “Well, first of all, all of this information is coming out of the Justice Department. Last time I checked, that's a President Obama agency. So this could be, you know, death by a thousand cuts.”

HANNITY: “Well, we're already beginning to see the signs of it. She's down 10 in Iowa. She's down 22 in New Hampshire. If she lost those back- to-back to Bernie Sanders, it would be huge news. On top of that, her support for (sic) women has literally dropped to 31 percent. She's losing in head-to-head matchups against Donald Trump. So obviously, this is now impacting the campaign.”

GIULIANI: “There's no question about it. And you can't run away from it. She has given no coherent explanation of it. In fact, as we've talked about on this show, she has given several contradictory explanations of it.  And that's the worst possible thing you can do from a political point of view. From a legal point of view, all those things can be used against you, if you ever end up being a defendant in court, as prior contradictory statements.”