Trump: I’m Not Talking About Carly’s Looks; ‘I’m Talking Her Persona’

CUOMO: “First it was Rosie and Megyn, now you've got Carly Fiorina. They've got you in Rolling Stone magazine making fun of the way she looks. Why do you talk about how women look so much? You know it's not presidential. It's probably not even –“ [Crosstalk]
TRUMP: “I'm not talking -- look, I'm talking about persona. Look, here's another one.”
CUOMO: “You said look at that face. You said look at that face.”
TRUMP: “I mean, between Carson and Carly –“
CUOMO: “You said look at that face!”
TRUMP: “I'll say some nice things about you at least so that they'll say at least he says nice things about some people.”
CUOMO: “I'll take it.”
TRUMP: The fact is that Carly Fiorina has had a terrible past. She was fired viciously from Hewlett-Packard. The dean of the Yale Business School –“ [Crosstalk]
CUOMO: “But then you should say that.”
TRUMP: “-- who's a highly-respected man, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, wrote a paper that was one of the worst papers on CEOs. She goes down as one of the worst ever. The company practically created –“
CUOMO: “But then say that.”
TRUMP: “Wait, excuse me, Chris, wait. Thousands of jobs gone, stock prices gone, still haven't recovered. It's a total disaster but still hasn't recovered. They're trying hard, but she was a disastrous CEO. She had a company before that called Lucent, which in my opinion and in my memory, was even a worse catastrophe than Hewlett-Packard. She then gets fired from Hewlett-Packard. She runs for the Senate against somebody that could have been beaten easily, she loses in a landslide, and now she's running for president. Now, when I said that and The Rolling Stone article has moments of beauty and great moments, and I did like the pictures, actually, one of the few magazines where I actually like the pictures. So the photographer was good. The writer actually called me and said, ‘I'm so upset.’ I wrote this great story and Jan Winters screwed it up. He told me because they added a lot of stuff, a lot of garish stuff that I think is disgusting. But they added that.”
CUOMO: “What I'm saying is that –“ 
TRUMP: “Excuse me, wait. So -- but Carly, the statement on Carly, I'm talking about her persona. Her persona is not going to be -- she's not going to be president. She's had a terrible, terrible failed time –“ 
CUOMO: “I don't know about that. I'll tell you why. I hear everything you're saying about the record. They are all legitimate bases for criticism that you can level against one of your opponents, but I'm just reading the quote for what it is, ‘Look at that face.’ Why would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that's the face of our next president? I mean, she's a woman. I'm not supposed say bad things. But really, folks, come on. Are we serious? That's not about her persona?”
TRUMP: “I'm talking persona.”
CUOMO: “How? Where's the persona in that?”
TRUMP: “And what she's saying about my hair, I know that's OK and you won't defend me.”
CUOMO: “That's tit for tat. That's –“ [Crosstalk]
TRUMP: “Because my hair, by the way, I think you know me well enough, it is my hair. But when she –“ [Crosstalk]
CUOMO: “Somebody comes on my air and makes fun of your hair, I'm going to them to shut up and move on to something else. If somebody does that to you on my air, and they say he shouldn't be president because of his hair, look at his hair, I'll say, shut up. Let's talk about something else because it's unkind and it's unpresidential.”
TRUMP: “Well, you don't have to defend me. I'm not looking for anyone to defend me. I'm just saying, when she and other people hit me on things, nobody ever comes to my defense.”