Morgan Ortagus Confronts Adam Schiff About the Steele Dossier

Schiff: ‘Whoever lied to the FBI or lied to Christopher Steele should be prosecuted’

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EXCERPT:

SCHIFF: "Well, first of all, whoever lied to the FBI or lied to Christopher Steele should be prosecuted, and they are. And unlike in the Trump administration, if they’re convicted, they should go to jail, not be pardoned. So, Donald Trump pardoned Roger Stone for lying. He pardoned Michael Flynn for lying. If people lied to the FBI, they should go to jail. But at the beginning of the Russian investigation, I said that any allegations should be investigated. We couldn’t have known for example, people were lying to Christopher Steele. So it was proper to investigate them. And let’s not forget what we learned in that investigation. We learned that the Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort was giving internal polling data, campaign polling data to Russian intelligence while Russian intelligence was helping the Trump campaign."
ORTAGUS: "And to be clear, he was fired halfway through the campaign."
SCHIFF: "Well, he may have been fired --"
ORTAGUS: "Yeah."
SCHIFF: "-- but the -- the effort to get Russian help continued, and even beyond the effort to get Russian help."
ORTAGUS: "But you make false --"
SCHIFF: "The president also sought to get —" [crosstalk]
ORTAGUS: "-- spread disinformation yourself for years by promoting this. I think that’s what Republicans and what people who entrusted you as the Intel Committee chair are so confused about your culpability in all of this."
SCHIFF: "Well, I -- I completely disagree with the premise. It’s one thing to say allegations should be investigated and they were, it’s another to say that we should have foreseen in advance that some people were lying to Christopher Steele, which is impossible, of course, to do. But, let’s not use that as a smoke screen to somehow shield Donald Trump’s culpability for inviting Russia to help him in the election, which they did, for trying to force Ukraine into helping him in the next election, which he did, into inciting an insurrection, which he did. None of that is undercut. None of that serious misconduct is in any way diminished by the fact that people lied to Christopher Steele."
ORTAGUS: "No. I think just your credibility is."

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