Chris Rufo to Joy Ann Reid: What You’re Doing Is Playing Word Games

EXCERPT:

RUFO: "Well, I'll say two things. First of all, it’s very interesting to me that so many people are running away from the label of critical race theory."
REID: "He’s not a critical race theorist."
RUFO: "Hold. I’m going to quote two critical race theorists. Barbara Applebaum, with her book 'Being Good, Being White,' she says, 'All white people are racist.' Robin DiAngelo, who's another critical whiteness study scholar, says that — "
REID: "She’s not a critical race theorist."
RUFO: " — white identity is inherently racist."
REID: "No."
RUFO: "So what you’re doing is playing a series of word games."
REID: "No, no — "
RUFO: "You know that critical whiteness study is a sub-field of critical race theory?"
REID: "No, it's not." 
RUFO: "These things are all deeply interrelated."
REID: "They're not. They're just not."
RUFO: "And I’m not going to let you play word games. So this is really, I think, the most essential thing — "
REID: "Hold up — "
RUFO: "Hold on."
REID: "No, no, no, no."
RUFO: "Let me respond at least once. I haven’t gotten a full sentence out."