Stossel: Gay Marriage ‘Movement Has Moved from Tolerance to Totalitarianism’

‘This is not about religious rights, this is about individual freedom’

Stossel: Gay Marriage "Movement Has Moved From Tolerance To Totalitarianism" (RealClearPolitics)

O'REILLY: “I believe that gay Americans deserve protections specifically written into the law because of the numbers. Number one, they are very small compared to the big population and children who are homosexual or feminine if they are boys, or different, get brutalized. Teenagers brutalized. Matthew Shepard -- remember the case in Wyoming -- killed nailed to a fence post. All right? Only because of their sexual orientation. No other reason. So, when you have a situation like that, a situation where we have 325 million people in this country and even if 90 percent of them are good, decent folks, that leaves 32 million people running around that can hurt you. You have got to protect. So gay Americans deserve carved out legal protections. You disagree?”
STOSSEL: “Well, when you say carved out special protections to them.”
O'REILLY: “Yes. Not special, but the crime is elevated if you attack someone on the basis –“
STOSSEL: “-- But it's already a crime. If you attack someone.”
O'REILLY: “I want it elevated.”
STOSSEL: “We already got all the gender, religion, disability, age, all these specially protected groups. I am two of those. You better be nice to me.”
O'REILLY: “I always am. But I think you understand where I’m coming from here is that there is a risk in certain areas of this country.”
STOSSEL: “Of course. But this is the point.”
O'REILLY: “And maybe a local jurisdiction won't investigate because they don't -- they succumb to the pressure. So the federal government has to get involved. It’s the same thing on the race issue. So, I mean, I’m going to demand and I think those protections are needed.”
STOSSEL: “Fine. No quarrel. Look, I’m for gay marriage, but I think this movement has moved from tolerance to totalitarianism. Totalitarianism of the Left.”
O'REILLY: “I have no -- you are absolutely right on that.”
STOSSEL: “No baker should get to stop two people from getting married anybody they want."
O'REILLY: “They can't stop it. The bakers cannot stop it."
STOSSEL: “They shouldn't -- they shouldn't be forced to bake the cake.”
O'REILLY: “I agree with you.”
STOSSEL: “I disagree with you and Marco Rubio. This is not about religious rights. It’s about individual freedom.” [crosstalk]
O'REILLY: “There has got to be a reason why. Look. If a black couple comes in and the baker says, 'I’m not going to bake the cake because you are black,' that's a crime.”
STOSSEL: “Given America’s history, blacks are a special case. But, your point was good about exclusivity. There are lots of places --"
O'REILLY: “There are lots of places to go and if it is a religious thing --"
STOSSEL: “All of you, even those who think this is immoral, Hobby Lobby has to go to the Supreme court to not pay for what it considers murder? That’s wrong.”
O'REILLY: “Well, the system actually worked there though.” [crosstalk]
STOSSEL: “Barely. They had to spend a billion dollars to prove they were religious?”
O'REILLY: “Let’s get back to this totalitarianism, fascism that's being imposed by the secular progressive fanatics and that’s got to be, as I told Mr. [indecipherable], confronted. It has to be.”
STOSSEL: “We should have freedom of information. And the way -- sorry, freedom of association in America. The way to fight bigotry. A bigot ought to be allowed to a bigot and the way to fight is to not patronize that store. I won't go the --”[crosstalk]
O'REILLY: “A bigot, all right. If you want to be a bigot, you have a right to be a bigot but you don't have the right to hurt someone in the process.”
STOSSEL: “But not selling them a cake isn't the same thing.”
O'REILLY: “Not the same thing. But there has to be legal protections for homosexuals in this country. There has to be.”
STOSSEL: “We have them. And I agree."

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