Hannity Battles Pat Buchanan On Iran: ‘You Sound Like Obama!’

HANNITY: “Joining me with reaction the author of ‘The Greatest Comeback,’ Patrick J. Buchanan is with us. Pat, shouldn’t it be a prerequisite that Iran stops being the number one state sponsor of terror, that they stop saying it’s non-negotiable — the Israel’s destruction, and that they stop saying ‘Death to America’ before we even sit down at the table with them?”
BUCHANAN: “No, no, Sean. Look, in 1956 Khrushchev says, ‘We will bury you Americans,’ and three years later he was in the White House with Eisenhower. You got to talk to your enemies. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former president of Iran came out and said, ‘We’re going to wipe Israel off the map.’ It was beer talk, he was in office eight years, Sean —“
HANNITY: “Pat, wait, that’s not beer talk. Wait a minute —“
BUCHANAN: “—and he’s back teaching in college.”
HANNITY: “You don’t believe them? Wasn’t that a mistake we made in World War II, that the only person that seemed to really understand the nature of Hitler’s ambitions was a guy by the name of Winston Churchill? Wasn’t he one guy that understood —“ [crosstalk]
BUCHANAN: “Sean, Ahmadinejad was in power for eight years. He did nothing. He was a blowhard. Are we going to be frightened by words from some character in Iran?”
HANNITY: “Pat, what do you mean blowhard? The blowhard that supplied Hezbollah rockets and other terror groups rockets to fight a proxy war against Israel. They’re fighting a proxy war now against Saudi Arabia in Yemen. This is all Iran, Pat, what part of this are you missing?”
BUCHANAN: “I’ll tell you what, Sean. In Iraq, Iran is fighting ISIS and al Qaeda. In Syria they’re fighting ISIS on behalf of Assad. In Yemen they’re not involved there.”
HANNITY: “You think they’re friends? You think the Iranians are our friends?”
BUCHANAN: “They are not our friends. Sean, they’re fighting our enemies. I’d rather have Iranians up there fighting in Tikrit and dying than American kids there and the reason Iraq is in the camp now very much —“ [crosstalk]
HANNITY: “So you don’t have any problem with the [indecipherable] of Barack Hussein Obama ultimately being on Iranian nuclear weapon with their history of being the state sponsor of terror fighting proxy wars, threatening Israel to annihilate them and the United States, you have no problem with that?”
BUCHANAN: “Sean, Sean. Listen to the American head of intelligence. [crosstalk] He says Iran does not have a bomb program as of 2013. Secondly, if they start building a bomb, we will know it. Third, Iran has made some concessions that are not enough that makes them less able to get to —“
HANNITY: “Go back to 2012 when we found out they were far more advanced in the nuclear production and program than we ever thought was possible. That’s what Obama’s own government said.”
BUCHANAN: “You’re friend Bibi’s been talking about Iran getting a bomb since 1992. In 2006 he said they’ll be building 25 bombs by the end of the decade. Are they? No.”
HANNITY: “Patrick Buchanan, you don’t have any concerns at all about sitting down — by the way, there’s a big difference between the cold war and the Russians that had nuclear weapons and America paving the way for them to get nuclear weapons considering — I would argue that before any negotiations take place, Pat, I’m not against negotiations. But first you have to change your behaviour. Stop being a state sponsor of terror. Stop fighting proxy wars. Stop funding groups like Hezbollah and other groups. How’s that?”
BUCHANAN: “Sean. Sean.”
HANNITY: “Pat.”
BUCHANAN: “In Syria, in Iraq, OK, the Iranians and their allies, Hezbollah, the Shiite militia who are a dreadful bunch, Assad, are fighting ISIS. They are fighting al Qaeda. The Houthi rebels in Yemen are fighting ISIS and al Qaeda?”
HANNITY: “ [indecipherable] we are serving as their air force in those instances in large part because they are —“ [crosstalk]
BUCHANAN: “Who are they killing, Sean? They are killing our enemies. They are killing our enemies.”
HANNITY: “OK. And then we’re also fighting against them in Yemen with the Saudis. So explain that logic to me. How is that a comprehendible foreign policy?”
BUCHANAN: “Listen, I will tell what the Saudis are going to do. The Saudis are making a terrible mistake. If they go in there on the ground, it will be their Vietnam. When I was a young editorial writer, Egypt —“
HANNITY: “But if the Saudis don’t go in there, then they’re going to be surrounded by the Iranians which by the way want to clearly build a huge power for themselves in the region. And that would be more dangerous as the Jordanians and Egyptians believe.”
BUCHANAN: “Sean, the reason Iran’s going to have a power in the Gulf is because your President George W. Bush invaded Iraq and turned it into a lot of Iran.”
HANNITY: “Excuse me, Pat, if you’re going to bring it up, point out that the surge worked and —“
BUCHANAN: “The surge worked.”
HANNITY: “— and the Bush’s admonition –[crosstalk]
BUCHANAN: “The surge worked.”
HANNITY: “— Hang on. And it was 2007 if the admonition of keeping intelligence and training troops on the ground were met by Obama, we wouldn’t be in this position, would we?”
BUCHANAN: “Sean.”
HANNITY: “Would we?”
BUCHANAN: “Sean, the reason we’re in this position is because Saddam Hussein, a thug, was overthrown, his state was destroyed, his army was broken up, elections were held by Bush, democracy crusade and the Shia won and we lost Iraq.”
HANNITY: “OK. You believe we can make a deal with the Iranians? Do you believe in peace within Iranians in our time? Is that what you are saying?”
BUCHANAN: “No, I’m not scared of Iran for god sakes. They don’t have an atomic bomb —“
HANNITY: “Now you sound like Obama. Iran is a tiny country, they’re not a threat. Do you believe that?”
BUCHANAN: “Bibi is sitting on 200 atom bombs and he’s fretting over Iran which hasn’t even produced weapons —“ [crosstalk]
HANNITY: “And this going to create an arms race that the likes of which the world has never seen with one distinction, Pat. Now you are putting nuclear weapons in the hands of radical Islamic mullahs.—“
BUCHANAN: “We are in the United States —“
HANNITY: “Do you really want that?”
BUCHANAN: “United States —“
HANNITY: “You don’t see that as a danger?”
BUCHANAN: “The United States could finish off Iran in an afternoon. What are you frightened of, Sean?”
HANNITY: “OK. I think it’s a bad idea. Just like we finished off North Korea in an afternoon, right, Pat?”
BUCHANAN: “I think it’s a bad idea for them to get a bomb and I think we can stop it.”
HANNITY: “Pat, I think you’re dreaming. All right. Thank you, sir.”
BUCHANAN: “I think you’re hysterical, Sean.”
HANNITY: “I’m hysterical. I don’t want the mullahs of Iran — I take their word seriously —“
BUCHANAN: “I don’t either and I think we can stop them.”
HANNITY: “Just like Churchill took the words of Hitler seriously and —“[crosstalk]
BUCHANAN: “Sean, how did Britain end up when it followed Churchill’s advice?”
HANNITY: “Well, they actually won the war. That’s how they —“
BUCHANAN: “Won the war? They wound up on American food stamps.”
HANNITY: “Well —“
BUCHANAN: “they lost the empire because —“
HANNITY: “And what was their option, Pat? Not to fight the Nazis?”
BUCHANAN: “No, their option was to form an alliance with France and tell the Germans if you cross you’re at war and they wouldn’t have had a war.”
HANNITY: “All right. You’re dreaming.”
BUCHANAN: “You should read my book.”