Carville: Obama Didn’t Mislead on ObamaCare

CARVILLE: “Investigating this and finding this is like investigating and coming up to the conclusion that water is wet. I mean—“
O'REILLY: “--Yeah, but you know as well as I do—“
CARVILLE:”—They had a basic level—“
O’REILLY: “--Only in the last two weeks have they put the screws to the president over healthcare. Come on, you know that.”
CARVILLE: But this is not, you always knew that under the affordable health care act you had to have certain minimum requirements. Some of these policies may not even cover hospitalizations.”
O'REILLY: “But it doesn't matter what the fine print says—“
CARVILLE: “—And by the way, what it says—“
O’REILLY: “—But it doesn’t matter what the fine print says—“
CARVILLE: “—But no of course the fine print—“
O’REILLY: “--No, no, no, James, the president of the United States on five occasions looked into the camera and said, 'You know what? If you like your policy, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep it.' That's what matters.”
CARVILLE: “Again, the more accurate thing would have been to say, ‘As long as your policy meets the basic standards of Affordable Care Act.’”
O'REILLY: “All right, but he didn't say that, did he?”
CARVILLE: “By the way, one of the things no one says is if you get subsidies. When you say it costs more, that's not necessarily the truth.”
O'REILLY: “Some people get subsidies and some don't.”
CARVILLE: “Exactly. Some people do, right. That's absolutely true. And the only way you could insure sick people is that you have to have well people in the pool.”
O'REILLY: “That's what I said.”
CARVILLE: “That's what it is about. You can’t [unintelligible].”
O'REILLY: “The bottom line is that the president of the United States misled the nation. Now, do you think he did it intentionally or just he didn't want to know? I mean, what’s the deal?”
CARVILLE: “First of all, it was reported in the press. I, I—“
O'REILLY: “--I don't care about the press.—“
CARVILLE: “—You don’t care?--”
O’REILLY: “He misled the nation. Did he do it on purpose or not?”
CARVILLE: “I think, I don't think he, I think what he could have made is a more nuanced, accurate statement.—“
O'REILLY: “--Did he do it on purpose or not?—“
CARVILLE: “--I have no idea. I don't think he actually mislead the nation.—“
O’REILLY: “—Oh, ah, ha ha.—“
CARVILLE: “--I think he could have got a more accurate statement.”
O'REILLY: “Come on.”
CARVILLE: “Well, you asked me. I'm just giving you my opinion.”
O'REILLY: “His words are his words.”
CARVILLE: “Again, Bill, these policies in the individual market –“
O'REILLY: “--That's not what he said! That's not what he said! What he said was misleading, James.”
CARVILLE: “You keep interrupting.”
O'REILLY: “I keep interrupting because you are pettifogging the issue.”
CARVILLE: “No, I'm not pettifogging the issue. I'm merely saying that calling something health insurance doesn't make it health insurance, and that is what the point is. These policies—“
O'REILLY: “--He said five separate times if you want to keep your policy, you will be able to, if you want to keep your doctor, you will be able to and it's going to bring don't health costs for most Americans. All false, all false.”
CARVILLE: “I think it's going to save the country an enormous amount of money. But we’ll  see. A year from now--”
O’REILLY: “--I'm going to try one more time, James, one more and if you don't answer I have to go. Did he do it on purpose? Did he mislead on purpose?”
CARVILLE: “First of all, I don't know, I wouldn't accept the fact it couldn't have been more accurate I have no idea. I'm like Charles. I can't get in someone else's skin.—“
O’REILLY: “You don’t know.”
CARVILLE: “I don’t know. But I don’t think, I think he could have been more accurate is what I would say.”
O’REILLY: “Hillary is going to distance herself. You know that? Your best friend Hillary is going to distance herself.”
CARVILLE: “You know, lLet's see what happens here. I actually think this thing is going to be okay in the end. It's obviously this web thing is not a disaster. It's a joke. But I think they will.”
O’REILLY: “Hope springs eternal.”
CARVILLE: “Absolutely. Absolutely.”