Antifa Activist to Tucker: I Looked up to You When You Were a Libertarian

[excerpt Carlson Are you ░░░░░░░░ professor by the way ░░░░░░░░ What Carlson Here s ░░░░░░░░ question though Is it ░░░░░░░░ statements that have espoused ░░░░░░░░ or is it acts ░░░░░░░░ violence ISSACSON It s ░░░░░░░░ We re talking about ░░░░░░░░ Hold on let me ░░░░░░░░ finish my question Could ░░░░░░░░ commit violence against me ░░░░░░░░ you thought that I ░░░░░░░░ a history of saying ░░░░░░░░ that you imagined were ░░░░░░░░ ISAACSON I would never ░░░░░░░░ violence against you Actually ░░░░░░░░ I was younger I ░░░░░░░░ a Libertarian and I ░░░░░░░░ looked up to you ░░░░░░░░ you were a Libertarian ░░░░░░░░ Okay let s take ░░░░░░░░ out of this The ░░░░░░░░ of self defense is ░░░░░░░░ legal concept but it ░░░░░░░░ also got a long ░░░░░░░░ and tradition in common ░░░░░░░░ So the idea is ░░░░░░░░ I m hitting you ░░░░░░░░ I strike you physically ░░░░░░░░ I physically commit violence ░░░░░░░░ you you have the ░░░░░░░░ to commit violence back ░░░░░░░░ order to protect yourself ░░░░░░░░ your property But your ░░░░░░░░ to say that anybody ░░░░░░░░ has espoused ideas that ░░░░░░░░ at some point in ░░░░░░░░ lead to violence can ░░░░░░░░ subject to violence from ░░░░░░░░ You re not saying ░░░░░░░░ ISSACSON No I m ░░░░░░░░ saying that What I ░░░░░░░░ saying is I believe ░░░░░░░░ is the right for ░░░░░░░░ to get together to ░░░░░░░░ what is a threat ░░░░░░░░ them and to defend ░░░░░░░░ against that threat Carlson ░░░░░░░░ me an example What ░░░░░░░░ figure in America right ░░░░░░░░ could be shut down ░░░░░░░░ have his free speech ░░░░░░░░ taken away and could ░░░░░░░░ the subject of violence ░░░░░░░░ the standards you are ░░░░░░░░ ISSACSON For instance I ░░░░░░░░ the framework here of ░░░░░░░░ about violence as opposed ░░░░░░░░ talking about preserving the ░░░░░░░░ freedoms that you and ░░░░░░░░ both enjoyed is a ░░░░░░░░ one Ultimately we are ░░░░░░░░ about a movement that ░░░░░░░░ advocates against all the ░░░░░░░░ of democracy We re ░░░░░░░░ about Richard Spencer who ░░░░░░░░ altright com publishes an ░░░░░░░░ on July 28th by ░░░░░░░░ man named Vincent Law ░░░░░░░░ the headline was To ░░░░░░░░ free speech get rid ░░░░░░░░ democracy Carlson Okay so ░░░░░░░░ s use that example ░░░░░░░░ disagree with that I ░░░░░░░░ t seen the piece ░░░░░░░░ it doesn t sound ░░░░░░░░ something I would agree ░░░░░░░░ Does Richard Spencer have ░░░░░░░░ right to speak in ░░░░░░░░ ISAACSON Richard Spencer is ░░░░░░░░ danger to society When ░░░░░░░░ speaks in public what ░░░░░░░░ is doing he s ░░░░░░░░ recruiting people to his ░░░░░░░░ violent movement Carlson So ░░░░░░░░ he have a right ░░░░░░░░ speak in public ISAACSON ░░░░░░░░ don t think he ░░░░░░░░ a right to speak ░░░░░░░░ public unopposed and that ░░░░░░░░ ultimately what the purpose ░░░░░░░░ Antifa is is to ░░░░░░░░ up and oppose him ░░░░░░░░ But it s not ░░░░░░░░ You shut people down ░░░░░░░░ prevent them for speaking ░░░░░░░░ you commit violence against ░░░░░░░░ ISAACSON It s not ░░░░░░░░ Carlson Don t tell ░░░░░░░░ it s untrue I ░░░░░░░░ a number of people ░░░░░░░░ have been knocked down ░░░░░░░░ beaten by people from ░░░░░░░░ So that is true ░░░░░░░░ does happen We have ░░░░░░░░ on tape we just ░░░░░░░░ the tape So you ░░░░░░░░ saying that s justified ░░░░░░░░ Yes I believe that ░░░░░░░░ have the right to ░░░░░░░░ themselves against threats to ░░░░░░░░ community.”