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Renato Mariotti Appears on MSNBC’s ‘The Beat’ To Discuss Trump Reportedly Trying to Fire Sessions
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MSNBC

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The Beat With Ari Melber

Name: The Beat With Ari Melber

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Ari Melber

Name: Ari Melber

Employment: MSNBC

Position: Co-host

, John Stanton

Name: John Stanton

, Margaret Carlson

Name: Margaret Carlson

, Evelyn Farkas

Name: Evelyn Farkas

, Renato Mariotti

Name: Renato Mariotti

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09/14/2017 06:33 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT I begin ░░░░░░░░ you spent nine years ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor and counsel to ░░░░░░░░ York City mayor bill ░░░░░░░░ Blasio You look at ░░░░░░░░ account What do you ░░░░░░░░ of those aides intervening ░░░░░░░░ prevent the firing of ░░░░░░░░ Sessions Are the real ░░░░░░░░ raised by that what ░░░░░░░░ did they give the ░░░░░░░░ for keeping Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ I mean the Times ░░░░░░░░ that had there was ░░░░░░░░ political congratulations But what ░░░░░░░░ did they say What ░░░░░░░░ reasons did they give ░░░░░░░░ dreens the president reject ░░░░░░░░ was he saying in ░░░░░░░░ to them Every word ░░░░░░░░ says and every word ░░░░░░░░ say to him is ░░░░░░░░ to be dissected by ░░░░░░░░ and his team Because ░░░░░░░░ would be evidence of ░░░░░░░░ president s the intend ░░░░░░░░ state of mind And ░░░░░░░░ of their conversations with ░░░░░░░░ are privileged So all ░░░░░░░░ that will come in ░░░░░░░░ all that will be ░░░░░░░░ You re saying what ░░░░░░░░ likely not privileged is ░░░░░░░░ that they or the ░░░░░░░░ don Mcgann would say ░░░░░░░░ ve been a counsel ░░░░░░░░ a chief executive in ░░░░░░░░ The type of things ░░░░░░░░ don Mcgann may have ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump for example ░░░░░░░░ you do this on ░░░░░░░░ of Comey it could ░░░░░░░░ to an obstruction case ░░░░░░░░ s something that Mueller ░░░░░░░░ probably get out of ░░░░░░░░ do you think It ░░░░░░░░ could And we certainly ░░░░░░░░ he ll try One ░░░░░░░░ the things he can ░░░░░░░░ is any hand written ░░░░░░░░ This is not just ░░░░░░░░ what someone will say ░░░░░░░░ an interview but what ░░░░░░░░ of documents exist and ░░░░░░░░ often think about formal ░░░░░░░░ records and we forget ░░░░░░░░ in addition to e ░░░░░░░░ there are also the ░░░░░░░░ that people will take ░░░░░░░░ a discussion and lawyers ░░░░░░░░ particular as you and ░░░░░░░░ both know will take ░░░░░░░░ in order to better ░░░░░░░░ the facts and give ░░░░░░░░ advice So I think ░░░░░░░░ s a lot there ░░░░░░░░ Mueller will be able ░░░░░░░░ dig into And the ░░░░░░░░ note that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ to the types wrote ░░░░░░░░ Jeff Sessions Does that ░░░░░░░░ into what the special ░░░░░░░░ can get For sure ░░░░░░░░ I think I would ░░░░░░░░ to think that note ░░░░░░░░ be very carefully thought ░░░░░░░░ by the president and ░░░░░░░░ staff Because obviously there ░░░░░░░░ a lot of discussion ░░░░░░░░ that But certainly Mueller ░░░░░░░░ get and it it ░░░░░░░░ if the contents of ░░░░░░░░ note were not revealed ░░░░░░░░ the story You have ░░░░░░░░ wonder why somebody leaked ░░░░░░░░ rest of the account ░░░░░░░░ not that And one ░░░░░░░░ to follow up on ░░░░░░░░ you were taurk on ░░░░░░░░ about the D C ░░░░░░░░ court of peas the ░░░░░░░░ court of appeals had ░░░░░░░░ examine this in the ░░░░░░░░ when Kenneth Starr was ░░░░░░░░ to get the conversations ░░░░░░░░ Bruce Lindsey then the ░░░░░░░░ House counsel and President ░░░░░░░░ and decided there was ░░░░░░░░ attorney general client privilege ░░░░░░░░ to don Mcgann s ░░░░░░░░ to President Trump We ░░░░░░░░ two experienced government attorneys ░░░░░░░░ with me I want ░░░░░░░░ bring in John Stanton ░░░░░░░░ expert he who worked ░░░░░░░░ Sessions on the Armed ░░░░░░░░ Committee John on the ░░░░░░░░ this week we re ░░░░░░░░ a lot about the ░░░░░░░░ family who are both ░░░░░░░░ father and son now ░░░░░░░░ in the Mueller inquiry ░░░░░░░░ the same time this ░░░░░░░░ happening Around may 16th ░░░░░░░░ day before this explosion ░░░░░░░░ reported in the New ░░░░░░░░ Times tonight Was when ░░░░░░░░ s memo leaked saying ░░░░░░░░ was a request for ░░░░░░░░ to end the Flynn ░░░░░░░░ It suggested behind the ░░░░░░░░ this week Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ spending a lot of ░░░░░░░░ worried about trying contain ░░░░░░░░ Yeah I think if ░░░░░░░░ remember back then the ░░░░░░░░ investigation was what everyone ░░░░░░░░ talking about And he ░░░░░░░░ very clearly kind of ░░░░░░░░ with it And it ░░░░░░░░ not surprising that memo ░░░░░░░░ would come out that ░░░░░░░░ would then explode at ░░░░░░░░ Sessions I think it ░░░░░░░░ very clear from his ░░░░░░░░ and how he was ░░░░░░░░ about things that he ░░░░░░░░ feel very trapped almost ░░░░░░░░ being hunted by people ░░░░░░░░ A certain degree it ░░░░░░░░ a little bit understandable ░░░░░░░░ this would be a ░░░░░░░░ for him Although it ░░░░░░░░ of goes to what ░░░░░░░░ think you mentioned earlier ░░░░░░░░ doesn t seem to ░░░░░░░░ been well prepared for ░░░░░░░░ with these issues Staffing ░░░░░░░░ figuring out how you ░░░░░░░░ go about firing somebody ░░░░░░░░ a manner where it ░░░░░░░░ t cause problems for ░░░░░░░░ All these things Like ░░░░░░░░ is doing it by ░░░░░░░░ seat of his pants ░░░░░░░░ is so striking Evelyn ░░░░░░░░ served in the federal ░░░░░░░░ a very low level ░░░░░░░░ served at a very ░░░░░░░░ level I think we ░░░░░░░░ know there are job ░░░░░░░░ interview memos that are ░░░░░░░░ meticulously prepared when you ░░░░░░░░ looking at job positions ░░░░░░░░ know Donald Trump isn ░░░░░░░░ doing that Walk us ░░░░░░░░ your view of the ░░░░░░░░ of that piece and ░░░░░░░░ Sessions who according to ░░░░░░░░ associate who s spoke ░░░░░░░░ the Times who This ░░░░░░░░ the most embarrassing incident ░░░░░░░░ his career Look Donald ░░░░░░░░ brought this upon himself ░░░░░░░░ was the one conducting ░░░░░░░░ kinds of meetings and ░░░░░░░░ his staff conduct all ░░░░░░░░ of meetings with the ░░░░░░░░ who didn t come ░░░░░░░░ He and his staff ░░░░░░░░ to acknowledge discussions or ░░░░░░░░ kind of relations they ░░░░░░░░ with Kremlin officials or ░░░░░░░░ would call them informal ░░░░░░░░ The oligarchs people close ░░░░░░░░ the Kremlin So they ░░░░░░░░ this whole obfuscation strategy ░░░░░░░░ was the wrong strategy ░░░░░░░░ the firing of Comey ░░░░░░░░ may find out was ░░░░░░░░ legally an obstruction of ░░░░░░░░ issue Then you get ░░░░░░░░ how he treated secretary ░░░░░░░░ which in my opinion ░░░░░░░░ pretty abysmal First of ░░░░░░░░ either it shows that ░░░░░░░░ lacked understanding about the ░░░░░░░░ jeopardy What was at ░░░░░░░░ for secretary sessions Or ░░░░░░░░ he did it showed ░░░░░░░░ callousness I think the ░░░░░░░░ quote we might bear ░░░░░░░░ mind when we talk ░░░░░░░░ secretary sessions response the ░░░░░░░░ he had in July ░░░░░░░░ you remember he said ░░░░░░░░ the record it s ░░░░░░░░ And I think that ░░░░░░░░ the thing that makes ░░░░░░░░ feel a little bit ░░░░░░░░ about this The one ░░░░░░░░ about secretary sessions whether ░░░░░░░░ agree with him politically ░░░░░░░░ not While I was ░░░░░░░░ I worked on the ░░░░░░░░ side of the aisle ░░░░░░░░ didn t agree with ░░░░░░░░ on policy issues although ░░░░░░░░ were very bipartisan because ░░░░░░░░ was armed services But ░░░░░░░░ always polite always gentleman ░░░░░░░░ always tried to be ░░░░░░░░ southern gentleman He took ░░░░░░░░ in being a Christian ░░░░░░░░ boy scout motto on ░░░░░░░░ desk I don t ░░░░░░░░ how polite he was ░░░░░░░░ care that he made ░░░░░░░░ he thought was the ░░░░░░░░ independent decision at the ░░░░░░░░ in consult wags the ░░░░░░░░ lawyers Whatever everyone thinks ░░░░░░░░ his attitudes he listened ░░░░░░░░ the ethics lawyers He ░░░░░░░░ you re too close ░░░░░░░░ that Trump wanted to ░░░░░░░░ him for that is ░░░░░░░░ problem He dperd proper ░░░░░░░░ in that situation I ░░░░░░░░ add the personal stuff ░░░░░░░░ it gets on Donald ░░░░░░░░ s character The difference ░░░░░░░░ sessions and Trump is ░░░░░░░░ serve in the government ░░░░░░░░ he knew what he ░░░░░░░░ to do and he ░░░░░░░░ it Upon becoming President ░░░░░░░░ thought all his worries ░░░░░░░░ life were over He ░░░░░░░░ t just president He ░░░░░░░░ like king He didn ░░░░░░░░ have to abide by ░░░░░░░░ He didn t have ░░░░░░░░ be careful He didn ░░░░░░░░ have to consult with ░░░░░░░░ people He could act ░░░░░░░░ Which everything he did ░░░░░░░░ sessions was impulsive Everything ░░░░░░░░ did with Comey was ░░░░░░░░ Looking back on it ░░░░░░░░ is right Firing Comey ░░░░░░░░ turn out likely to ░░░░░░░░ one of the biggest ░░░░░░░░ mistakes Mr Recent history ░░░░░░░░ there s been a ░░░░░░░░ number of events since ░░░░░░░░ including Mueller Trump is ░░░░░░░░ good at controlling his ░░░░░░░░ Sessions is personally decent ░░░░░░░░ it mufbl the most ░░░░░░░░ thing It was done ░░░░░░░░ front of other people ░░░░░░░░ Trump has not shown ░░░░░░░░ loyalty to one of ░░░░░░░░ most loyal people to ░░░░░░░░ ever The first endorser ░░░░░░░░ John this same report ░░░░░░░░ the Times said Trump ░░░░░░░░ July told associates he ░░░░░░░░ to remove sessions but ░░░░░░░░ a second time didn ░░░░░░░░ take action Something Mueller ░░░░░░░░ look at Both things ░░░░░░░░ did and things that ░░░░░░░░ attempted That s right ░░░░░░░░ said we didn t ░░░░░░░░ do something They did ░░░░░░░░ And the fact he ░░░░░░░░ considering this is definitely ░░░░░░░░ that Mueller will look ░░░░░░░░ And I do think ░░░░░░░░ he considered doing it ░░░░░░░░ backed off and kept ░░░░░░░░ from doing it until ░░░░░░░░ attention was focused elsewhere ░░░░░░░░ it does point to ░░░░░░░░ fact there s not ░░░░░░░░ lot of planning going ░░░░░░░░ They re just dealing ░░░░░░░░ things as he decides ░░░░░░░░ dewith them on the ░░░░░░░░ of the moment Not ░░░░░░░░ great way to run ░░░░░░░░ railroad that has giant ░░░░░░░░ weapons And here was ░░░░░░░░ Trump on that fateful ░░░░░░░░ on an aircraft carrier ░░░░░░░░ it even harder Because ░░░░░░░░ the president says the ░░░░░░░░ general should not recuse ░░░░░░░░ is exactly the kind ░░░░░░░░ evidence of interference that ░░░░░░░░ for the recusal case ░░░░░░░░ a look at this ░░░░░░░░ in history Mr President ░░░░░░░░ you still have confidence ░░░░░░░░ the attorney general Total ░░░░░░░░ President should sessions recuse ░░░░░░░░ in the investigation into ░░░░░░░░ campaign and Russia I ░░░░░░░░ t think so Margaret ░░░░░░░░ don t think he ░░░░░░░░ vinced in that moment ░░░░░░░░ awareness of what he ░░░░░░░░ doing is that why ░░░░░░░░ made it worse No ░░░░░░░░ recusal would not be ░░░░░░░░ that Trump would be ░░░░░░░░ with Once he became ░░░░░░░░ with it he still ░░░░░░░░ t understand why it ░░░░░░░░ the right thing to ░░░░░░░░ and why sessions had ░░░░░░░░ do it So he ░░░░░░░░ sessions personally The human ░░░░░░░░ to feel sorry for ░░░░░░░░ The legal reaction is ░░░░░░░░ say it is one ░░░░░░░░ incident that Mueller has ░░░░░░░░ show intent to interf ░░░░░░░░ If you get it ░░░░░░░░ t matter if you ░░░░░░░░ fruits of what you ░░░░░░░░ out to do It ░░░░░░░░ matters that you tried ░░░░░░░░ do it As a ░░░░░░░░ matter that we re ░░░░░░░░ at collusion and obstructing ░░░░░░░░ isn t the best ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ back with you later ░░░░░░░░ the show Thank you ░░░░░░░░ Coming up the right ░░░░░░░░ having a lot of ░░░░░░░░ over Trump s deal ░░░░░░░░ was it no deal ░░░░░░░░ Democrats Others stunned by ░░░░░░░░ repeating the claim This ░░░░░░░░ brand new Both sides ░░░░░░░░ blame for Charlottesville violence ░░░░░░░░
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