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Renato Mariotti Appears on MSNBC’s ‘All In With Chris Hayes’ To Discuss Mueller’s Investigation
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All In with Chris Hayes

Name: All In with Chris Hayes

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Chris Hayes

Name: Chris Hayes

Employment: MSNBC

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, Renato Mariotti

Name: Renato Mariotti

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09/12/2017 08:38 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT For more ░░░░░░░░ where the Mueller investigation ░░░░░░░░ national security at the ░░░░░░░░ did it department and ░░░░░░░░ federal prosecutor You ve ░░░░░░░░ thoughts on the developments ░░░░░░░░ the last day or ░░░░░░░░ I ve been sort ░░░░░░░░ tracking them What jumps ░░░░░░░░ to you most at ░░░░░░░░ point Well one thing ░░░░░░░░ has jumped out to ░░░░░░░░ I ve discussed this ░░░░░░░░ lot on Twitter the ░░░░░░░░ couple of days is ░░░░░░░░ growing mounting attack on ░░░░░░░░ Comey by the president ░░░░░░░░ only the press secretary ░░░░░░░░ by his lawyers and ░░░░░░░░ and others What we ░░░░░░░░ yesterday and today by ░░░░░░░░ press secretary is literally ░░░░░░░░ accusation that the former ░░░░░░░░ director committed a crime ░░░░░░░░ that DoJ ought to ░░░░░░░░ that and consider charging ░░░░░░░░ Thatsal appalling to me ░░░░░░░░ is absolutely inappropriate for ░░░░░░░░ White House and the ░░░░░░░░ to suggest prosecution There ░░░░░░░░ walls between the White ░░░░░░░░ and DoJ What she ░░░░░░░░ doing is making an ░░░░░░░░ run by making statements ░░░░░░░░ the press suggesting that ░░░░░░░░ should be charged with ░░░░░░░░ crime Knowing that the ░░░░░░░░ is going to report ░░░░░░░░ those And that people ░░░░░░░░ DoJ are going to ░░░░░░░░ those reports It s ░░░░░░░░ inappropriate Carrie do you ░░░░░░░░ on that I absolutely ░░░░░░░░ certainly There s been ░░░░░░░░ in place for a ░░░░░░░░ time And my understanding ░░░░░░░░ that these procedures are ░░░░░░░░ in place under attorney ░░░░░░░░ sessions That there s ░░░░░░░░ supposed to be certain ░░░░░░░░ between the White House ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Justice ░░░░░░░░ ongoing investigations If the ░░░░░░░░ House press secretary stands ░░░░░░░░ in public and says ░░░░░░░░ should be an investigation ░░░░░░░░ something then they re ░░░░░░░░ the direction of the ░░░░░░░░ general So really she ░░░░░░░░ to not talk about ░░░░░░░░ and not suggest that ░░░░░░░░ take place It goes ░░░░░░░░ the heart of our ░░░░░░░░ of law It goes ░░░░░░░░ the heart of our ░░░░░░░░ system That there s ░░░░░░░░ supposed to be the ░░░░░░░░ of ongoing investigations or ░░░░░░░░ launching investigations or prosecutions ░░░░░░░░ also seems to me ░░░░░░░░ m not a lawyer ░░░░░░░░ I d like to ░░░░░░░░ what you think that ░░░░░░░░ s no criminal claim ░░░░░░░░ That this is essentially ░░░░░░░░ kind of like I ░░░░░░░░ you are but what ░░░░░░░░ I Kind of argument ░░░░░░░░ the White House That ░░░░░░░░ what makes really her ░░░░░░░░ even more abhorrent This ░░░░░░░░ clearly part of a ░░░░░░░░ political strategy you know ░░░░░░░░ heard recently that there ░░░░░░░░ memos that the Trump ░░░░░░░░ had prepared and sent ░░░░░░░░ Mueller attacking Comey s ░░░░░░░░ A couple of weeks ░░░░░░░░ the president tweeted that ░░░░░░░░ was unfair and that ░░░░░░░░ system was rigged And ░░░░░░░░ we re hearing these ░░░░░░░░ when there literally is ░░░░░░░░ evidence whatsoever that Comey ░░░░░░░░ a crime You had ░░░░░░░░ earlier Chris that I ░░░░░░░░ you made the correct ░░░░░░░░ even though you re ░░░░░░░░ nonlawyer that releasing information ░░░░░░░░ the press is not ░░░░░░░░ crime if that information ░░░░░░░░ t classified In fact ░░░░░░░░ have a First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ this country Right And ░░░░░░░░ default rule that is ░░░░░░░░ to the press is ░░░░░░░░ that is protected by ░░░░░░░░ Constitution Is it is ░░░░░░░░ the suggestion that he ░░░░░░░░ a crime or that ░░░░░░░░ did something even wrong ░░░░░░░░ totally off base Carrie ░░░░░░░░ t to talk about ░░░░░░░░ obstruction Reporting the concern ░░░░░░░░ the White House increasingly ░░░░░░░░ does seem to me ░░░░░░░░ on the hires that ░░░░░░░░ s made the asks ░░░░░░░░ they appear to be ░░░░░░░░ towards building an obstruction ░░░░░░░░ independent of whatever they ░░░░░░░░ doing with Manafort and ░░░░░░░░ and investigation the sort ░░░░░░░░ possibility of collusion There ░░░░░░░░ to be a paradox ░░░░░░░░ anyone obstructed it seems ░░░░░░░░ be it was the ░░░░░░░░ himself he ultimately is ░░░░░░░░ one who fired he ░░░░░░░░ the person who asked ░░░░░░░░ to lay off Flynn ░░░░░░░░ cetera And yet it ░░░░░░░░ really unclear that Robert ░░░░░░░░ could prosecute the president ░░░░░░░░ that seems like pretty ░░░░░░░░ terrain for him Well ░░░░░░░░ there is a legal ░░░░░░░░ that s outstanding that ░░░░░░░░ lawyers will disagree about ░░░░░░░░ or not a sitting ░░░░░░░░ C indicted for a ░░░░░░░░ But that doesn t ░░░░░░░░ that the special counsel ░░░░░░░░ t put together the ░░░░░░░░ that would establish a ░░░░░░░░ and then either decide ░░░░░░░░ bring that to the ░░░░░░░░ jury and have a ░░░░░░░░ document or whether that ░░░░░░░░ something that the special ░░░░░░░░ would refer to Congress ░░░░░░░░ a political matter So ░░░░░░░░ s an open question ░░░░░░░░ s quite possible that ░░░░░░░░ special counsel could conduct ░░░░░░░░ legal analysis and determine ░░░░░░░░ in fact they could ░░░░░░░░ a case against the ░░░░░░░░ But certainly there s ░░░░░░░░ lot of individuals in ░░░░░░░░ White House who are ░░░░░░░░ fact witnesses to this ░░░░░░░░ And so that s ░░░░░░░░ we re seeing reporting ░░░░░░░░ the special counsel wants ░░░░░░░░ interview all of these ░░░░░░░░ people who might have ░░░░░░░░ insights regarding what the ░░░░░░░░ said what discussions took ░░░░░░░░ in the White House ░░░░░░░░ his efforts to shut ░░░░░░░░ obstruct derail different parts ░░░░░░░░ this overall investigation It ░░░░░░░░ whatever constitutional questions are ░░░░░░░░ president would also be ░░░░░░░░ up in anything Mueller ░░░░░░░░ to do if he ░░░░░░░░ to attempt to charge ░░░░░░░░ as essentially an accomplice ░░░░░░░░ the argument is the ░░░░░░░░ had the constitutional power ░░░░░░░░ do this and therefore ░░░░░░░░ cannot have been gained ░░░░░░░░ obstruction Yeah I don ░░░░░░░░ think that argument is ░░░░░░░░ compelling Essentially saying you ░░░░░░░░ the power to do ░░░░░░░░ so no matter how ░░░░░░░░ exercise that power it ░░░░░░░░ always legal For example ░░░░░░░░ president has the power ░░░░░░░░ end investigations So would ░░░░░░░░ be it wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ obstruction of justice for ░░░░░░░░ to take a bribe ░░░░░░░░ end an investigation for ░░░░░░░░ purpose I don t ░░░░░░░░ that very compelling at ░░░░░░░░ What I do think ░░░░░░░░ that you talked about ░░░░░░░░ heat ratcheting up earlier ░░░░░░░░ and potentially going for ░░░░░░░░ top If the stakes ░░░░░░░░ high enough people who ░░░░░░░░ investigated tend to do ░░░░░░░░ things tend to do ░░░░░░░░ aggressive thins What we ░░░░░░░░ seeing is unlike what ░░░░░░░░ ve seen earlier from ░░░░░░░░ Trump camp we are ░░░░░░░░ a very coordinated strategy ░░░░░░░░ Comey And I think ░░░░░░░░ dwrg to see more ░░░░░░░░ tactics to come Now ░░░░░░░░ they seem to have ░░░░░░░░ act together and are ░░░░░░░░ together Many thanks to ░░░░░░░░ both.
>> Thank you.
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