Tucker Hammers College Student Opposed to Sean Spicer: ‘Why Are You a Fascist?’ Is a Stupid Question

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Good evening ░░░░░░░░ welcome to Tucker Carlson ░░░░░░░░ Interest two days newly ░░░░░░░░ White House press secretary ░░░░░░░░ spicer will travel west ░░░░░░░░ speak at the university ░░░░░░░░ Chicago One of the ░░░░░░░░ s most prestigious and ░░░░░░░░ colleges He s coming ░░░░░░░░ the invitation of longtime ░░░░░░░░ aide David Axelrod the ░░░░░░░░ of course is politics ░░░░░░░░ the presidential campaign Not ░░░░░░░░ on campaign believes he ░░░░░░░░ be allowed to talk ░░░░░░░░ public They argue that ░░░░░░░░ inviting a Trump supporter ░░░░░░░░ campus the school s ░░░░░░░░ normalizing the incoming administration ░░░░░░░░ students are threatening to ░░░░░░░░ down the event entirely ░░░░░░░░ of those joins us ░░░░░░░░ He is university senior ░░░░░░░░ is also the editor ░░░░░░░░ the weekly paper Things ░░░░░░░░ coming on tonight Thank ░░░░░░░░ for having me Tucker ░░░░░░░░ like your type You ░░░░░░░░ on Facebook that you ░░░░░░░░ to shut this thing ░░░░░░░░ and you suggested projectile ░░░░░░░░ I assume it was ░░░░░░░░ joke You said that ░░░░░░░░ spicer should not be ░░░░░░░░ to speak I read ░░░░░░░░ what you wrote about ░░░░░░░░ One of your explanations ░░░░░░░░ he represents a press ░░░░░░░░ that is hostile to ░░░░░░░░ of speech to the ░░░░░░░░ of the press Therefore ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t be allowed ░░░░░░░░ talk There seems an ░░░░░░░░ in that He is ░░░░░░░░ freedom of speech so ░░░░░░░░ t let him talk ░░░░░░░░ does that work Sure ░░░░░░░░ I was saying was ░░░░░░░░ that he shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ allowed to talk rather ░░░░░░░░ I was saying I ░░░░░░░░ a student yes it ░░░░░░░░ a joke when I ░░░░░░░░ that I wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ vomit on him I ░░░░░░░░ glad that he made ░░░░░░░░ I get to expand ░░░░░░░░ I meant to you ░░░░░░░░ I meant was that ░░░░░░░░ am a student and ░░░░░░░░ peers are allowed to ░░░░░░░░ to his presence on ░░░░░░░░ campus in ways that ░░░░░░░░ t just civil or ░░░░░░░░ decorate and don t ░░░░░░░░ for standing up after ░░░░░░░░ event and asking him ░░░░░░░░ question I never said ░░░░░░░░ should be disinvited I ░░░░░░░░ said he shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ allowed to talk In ░░░░░░░░ that involve a force ░░░░░░░░ sounds like When you ░░░░░░░░ we should be allowed ░░░░░░░░ respond how about the ░░░░░░░░ path which is a ░░░░░░░░ case You disagree with ░░░░░░░░ stands for which is ░░░░░░░░ and you say this ░░░░░░░░ what I stand for ░░░░░░░░ don t believe in ░░░░░░░░ it seems like Sure ░░░░░░░░ spicer was hired and ░░░░░░░░ paid to have certain ░░░░░░░░ and to support certain ░░░░░░░░ about the press He ░░░░░░░░ power a national platform ░░░░░░░░ is in the news ░░░░░░░░ day He has access ░░░░░░░░ policymaking power If I ░░░░░░░░ up and ask him ░░░░░░░░ question and say have ░░░░░░░░ ever considered that he ░░░░░░░░ give me a smarmy ░░░░░░░░ the last 20 seconds ░░░░░░░░ don t get a ░░░░░░░░ up Then what do ░░░░░░░░ do I would like ░░░░░░░░ raise my ability and ░░░░░░░░ my frustration in ways ░░░░░░░░ aren t going to ░░░░░░░░ after 20 seconds and ░░░░░░░░ gives me a nonanswer ░░░░░░░░ s a spin doctor ░░░░░░░░ know Carlson That s ░░░░░░░░ stupid question though Why ░░░░░░░░ you a fascist I ░░░░░░░░ not sure we can ░░░░░░░░ on what that means ░░░░░░░░ about specific you believe ░░░░░░░░ you are in favor ░░░░░░░░ this policy here is ░░░░░░░░ I think it is ░░░░░░░░ or hurts America Make ░░░░░░░░ case And all the ░░░░░░░░ media that I write ░░░░░░░░ I haven t seen ░░░░░░░░ doing that Instead you ░░░░░░░░ clearly smart I see ░░░░░░░░ calling names which seems ░░░░░░░░ be the way people ░░░░░░░░ Wouldn t it be ░░░░░░░░ to make a case ░░░░░░░░ I mean I think ░░░░░░░░ no matter what kind ░░░░░░░░ case I make no ░░░░░░░░ how good of a ░░░░░░░░ I make to him ░░░░░░░░ has no reason to ░░░░░░░░ to me and no ░░░░░░░░ to listen to be ░░░░░░░░ isn t about who ░░░░░░░░ right It is about ░░░░░░░░ has power So I ░░░░░░░░ that students in the ░░░░░░░░ need to mobilize in ░░░░░░░░ that would actually get ░░░░░░░░ that we like an 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world ░░░░░░░░ it would be past ░░░░░░░░ point where we can ░░░░░░░░ it back down In ░░░░░░░░ safe or efficient way ░░░░░░░░ s address you know ░░░░░░░░ about it Let me ░░░░░░░░ you this That is ░░░░░░░░ I don t have ░░░░░░░░ numbers on it No ░░░░░░░░ Here is my point ░░░░░░░░ are the editor of ░░░░░░░░ weekly paper people listen ░░░░░░░░ you and rather than ░░░░░░░░ here is why you ░░░░░░░░ to support the Paris ░░░░░░░░ Agreement your position is ░░░░░░░░ you don t believe ░░░░░░░░ that I think I ░░░░░░░░ even if I have ░░░░░░░░ details I m going ░░░░░░░░ flip your car over ░░░░░░░░ will vomit on you ░░░░░░░░ will commit an act ░░░░░░░░ violence I will beat ░░░░░░░░ up in a supermarket ░░░░░░░░ is not debate That ░░░░░░░░ something dumber no Tucker ░░░░░░░░ can I possibly make ░░░░░░░░ case to the Trump ░░░░░░░░ that he ought not ░░░░░░░░ away from the Paris ░░░░░░░░ accords You don t ░░░░░░░░ know what it is ░░░░░░░░ How could I possibly ░░░░░░░░ a point in a ░░░░░░░░ that would want him ░░░░░░░░ to me It s ░░░░░░░░ about who can make ░░░░░░░░ points this guy has ░░░░░░░░ platform he has control ░░░░░░░░ the country and can ░░░░░░░░ whatever he wants no ░░░░░░░░ what he wants It ░░░░░░░░ not about whether I ░░░░░░░░ convince him and the ░░░░░░░░ that it s wrong ░░░░░░░░ s about whether I ░░░░░░░░ make sure that he ░░░░░░░░ enough pressure that he ░░░░░░░░ t do it and ░░░░░░░░ the future of our ░░░░░░░░ So what you are ░░░░░░░░ is in politics its ░░░░░░░░ You are saying that ░░░░░░░░ of this matters Whoever ░░░░░░░░ the gun is the ░░░░░░░░ in charge That is ░░░░░░░░ you are saying Tucker ░░░░░░░░ is exactly what I ░░░░░░░░ not saying I have ░░░░░░░░ I would like to ░░░░░░░░ them on terms that ░░░░░░░░ not set by my ░░░░░░░░ You understand what I ░░░░░░░░ I think we can ░░░░░░░░ agree on these terms ░░░░░░░░ elucidated fact based debate ░░░░░░░░ carries the day If ░░░░░░░░ don t agree with ░░░░░░░░ if you think vandalism ░░░░░░░░ the day then we ░░░░░░░░ t really have a ░░░░░░░░ because we are starting ░░░░░░░░ places that are so ░░░░░░░░ that is not even ░░░░░░░░ it right Right So ░░░░░░░░ want to say that ░░░░░░░░ want to hear the ░░░░░░░░ side out and I ░░░░░░░░ participate in rational debate ░░░░░░░░ How can I possibly ░░░░░░░░ participate in a rational ░░░░░░░░ with someone who literally ░░░░░░░░ the country Think about ░░░░░░░░ for a second I ░░░░░░░░ t think vomiting on ░░░░░░░░ will be the answer ░░░░░░░░ that You establish the ░░░░░░░░ by telling me that ░░░░░░░░ was a joke and ░░░░░░░░ agreed with you I ░░░░░░░░ look I will say ░░░░░░░░ last thing I think ░░░░░░░░ are smart you probably ░░░░░░░░ valid points I disagree ░░░░░░░░ them but it might ░░░░░░░░ better to explain what ░░░░░░░░ are rather than to ░░░░░░░░ with hey I will ░░░░░░░░ you in the face ░░░░░░░░ you don t like ░░░░░░░░ That is where you ░░░░░░░░ starting from That s ░░░░░░░░ Tucker I think that ░░░░░░░░ have sort of a ░░░░░░░░ around or my actual ░░░░░░░░ is Look you have ░░░░░░░░ my writings in high ░░░░░░░░ You know that the ░░░░░░░░ of hyperbole in writing ░░░░░░░░ goes back I get ░░░░░░░░ Jake thanks a lot ░░░░░░░░ joining us I appreciate ░░░░░░░░ T