TIME Reporter: ‘Global Warming Is an Established Fact, It’s Immutable, It’s Non-Negotiable’

ALEX WAGNER Amid fears ░░░░░░░░ global warming a distinct ░░░░░░░░ has come over the ░░░░░░░░ community both here and ░░░░░░░░ the world Anthony MASON ░░░░░░░░ President Elect Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ he has an open ░░░░░░░░ when it comes to ░░░░░░░░ issue of climate change ░░░░░░░░ appointments appear openly hostile ░░░░░░░░ addressing the problem Some ░░░░░░░░ even looking to defund ░░░░░░░░ research to monitor environmental ░░░░░░░░ Here to talk about ░░░░░░░░ Jeffrey Kluger Time Magazine ░░░░░░░░ editor at large Jeffrey ░░░░░░░░ morning Jeffrey KLUGER Good ░░░░░░░░ MASON First of all ░░░░░░░░ concerned is the scientific ░░░░░░░░ about the changes in ░░░░░░░░ administration KLUGER The community ░░░░░░░░ concerned and it should ░░░░░░░░ concerned Look Global warming ░░░░░░░░ an established fact It ░░░░░░░░ immutable it s non ░░░░░░░░ it s not subject ░░░░░░░░ politics Global warming doesn ░░░░░░░░ read tweets It doesn ░░░░░░░░ care about who won ░░░░░░░░ Electoral College vote It ░░░░░░░░ an immutable bit of ░░░░░░░░ and what we re ░░░░░░░░ is an administration that ░░░░░░░░ choosing to appoint people ░░░░░░░░ are hostile to that ░░░░░░░░ idea who at best ░░░░░░░░ dodge it by saying ░░░░░░░░ I m not a ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ then listen to the ░░░░░░░░ 90 seven percent of ░░░░░░░░ say that global warming ░░░░░░░░ real it s happening ░░░░░░░░ it s a deadly ░░░░░░░░ WAGNER Jeffrey what about ░░░░░░░░ discrepancy between the agency ░░░░░░░░ and the thousands of ░░░░░░░░ servants who actually staff ░░░░░░░░ agencies and have done ░░░░░░░░ large part of the ░░░░░░░░ work for the Obama ░░░░░░░░ KLUGER Well this is ░░░░░░░░ we re seeing and ░░░░░░░░ is some hope here ░░░░░░░░ a lot of these ░░░░░░░░ are lifetime civil servants ░░░░░░░░ have the power of ░░░░░░░░ They have the power ░░░░░░░░ for lack of a ░░░░░░░░ term passive aggression Of ░░░░░░░░ they re required to ░░░░░░░░ their superiors but there ░░░░░░░░ work that s done ░░░░░░░░ in pursuit of a ░░░░░░░░ cause and then there ░░░░░░░░ work that s done ░░░░░░░░ and there s a ░░░░░░░░ power in civil servants ░░░░░░░░ but we re seeing ░░░░░░░░ danger already The Trump ░░░░░░░░ committee has already sent ░░░░░░░░ seventy four question questionnaire ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Energy ░░░░░░░░ Which they pushed back ░░░░░░░░ though KLUGER They pushed ░░░░░░░░ on yes and that ░░░░░░░░ a good thing They ░░░░░░░░ these are civil servants ░░░░░░░░ their job So no ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ you the names of ░░░░░░░░ who attended U N ░░░░░░░░ on climate change we ░░░░░░░░ not going to give ░░░░░░░░ the names of people ░░░░░░░░ have studied the social ░░░░░░░░ of carbon because that ░░░░░░░░ an important study and ░░░░░░░░ people are doing their ░░░░░░░░ but it still will ░░░░░░░░ a chilling effect ALEX ░░░░░░░░ What about the fact ░░░░░░░░ President Elect Trump has ░░░░░░░░ he ll scrap the ░░░░░░░░ s Clean Power President ░░░░░░░░ s Clean Power Plan ░░░░░░░░ effective can he be ░░░░░░░░ unwinding that Has industry ░░░░░░░░ already moved forward to ░░░░░░░░ degree on this KLUGER ░░░░░░░░ has already moved forward ░░░░░░░░ this is a good ░░░░░░░░ because this is where ░░░░░░░░ see the power of ░░░░░░░░ market which conservatives purport ░░░░░░░░ like and we all ░░░░░░░░ like the power of ░░░░░░░░ market That has already ░░░░░░░░ ahead to adapt to ░░░░░░░░ clean energy environment Coal ░░░░░░░░ plants according to this ░░░░░░░░ are required to upgrade ░░░░░░░░ equipment Now it s ░░░░░░░░ being appealed the law ░░░░░░░░ regulation is being appealed ░░░░░░░░ people like Rick Scott ░░░░░░░░ who is the new ░░░░░░░░ of the EPA WAGNER ░░░░░░░░ KLUGER And if the ░░░░░░░░ C circuit court overturns ░░░░░░░░ regulation that will be ░░░░░░░░ it will be overturned ░░░░░░░░ they uphold it then ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration will probably ░░░░░░░░ it to the Supreme ░░░░░░░░