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Tucker Carlson Grills Activist: Your Response to the Nomination of Tillerson Seems Like a ‘Knee Jerk Response’
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Tucker Carlson Tonight

Name: Tucker Carlson Tonight


Tucker Carlson

Name: Tucker Carlson

Employment: Fox News; Daily Caller

Position: Co-host; Editor-in-chief

, Fred Krupp

Name: Fred Krupp

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12/14/2016 10:05 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT CARLSON Well ░░░░░░░░ evening and welcome to ░░░░░░░░ Carlson tonight the trump ░░░░░░░░ has made 12 cabinet ░░░░░░░░ so far Some have ░░░░░░░░ widely lauded some have ░░░░░░░░ Perhaps some none fiercer ░░░░░░░░ the left than nominee ░░░░░░░░ secretary of state Rex ░░░░░░░░ Big business pawn of ░░░░░░░░ Putin Tillerson is likely ░░░░░░░░ have boisterous nomination hearings ░░░░░░░░ the upset is environmental ░░░░░░░░ for what tillerson does ░░░░░░░░ a living Environmental defense ░░░░░░░░ reacted to the news ░░░░░░░░ way trump s nomination ░░░░░░░░ Exxon mobile CEO of ░░░░░░░░ of state is another ░░░░░░░░ he is putting the ░░░░░░░░ of the oil and ░░░░░░░░ industry ahead of the ░░░░░░░░ of the American people ░░░░░░░░ Krupp joins you now ░░░░░░░░ you for coming on ░░░░░░░░ Glad to be here ░░░░░░░░ So I think he ░░░░░░░░ kind of a reasonable ░░░░░░░░ environmentalist but sort of ░░░░░░░░ oriented And that seemed ░░░░░░░░ a knee jerk response ░░░░░░░░ the nomination of Rex ░░░░░░░░ Maybe more aimed at ░░░░░░░░ donors in West L ░░░░░░░░ than the rest of ░░░░░░░░ country You really think ░░░░░░░░ appointed him so he ░░░░░░░░ increase the fortunes of ░░░░░░░░ oil and gas business ░░░░░░░░ Tucker we should take ░░░░░░░░ step back from Mr ░░░░░░░░ the question is the ░░░░░░░░ slate of nominees from ░░░░░░░░ president elect CARLSON This ░░░░░░░░ Mr Tillerson you were ░░░░░░░░ to I think KRUPP ░░░░░░░░ But is he part ░░░░░░░░ a slate I don ░░░░░░░░ object to having a ░░░░░░░░ voice in the cabinet ░░░░░░░░ makes a lot of ░░░░░░░░ But when you look ░░░░░░░░ the fact that it ░░░░░░░░ Mr Perry who railroaded ░░░░░░░░ fast tracked 13 permits ░░░░░░░░ build coal fired power ░░░░░░░░ in Texas When you ░░░░░░░░ at the fact that ░░░░░░░░ Pruitt head of EPA ░░░░░░░░ also sided with the ░░░░░░░░ and gas industry and ░░░░░░░░ to rip down every ░░░░░░░░ pollution safeguard That s ░░░░░░░░ issue It s a ░░░░░░░░ of balance This cabinet ░░░░░░░░ way out of balance ░░░░░░░░ these issues Okay But ░░░░░░░░ respect this is what ░░░░░░░░ always do when they ░░░░░░░░ t want to answer ░░░░░░░░ direct question They deflect ░░░░░░░░ to something much large ░░░░░░░░ Not about this it ░░░░░░░░ a larger question I ░░░░░░░░ asking you to respond ░░░░░░░░ a quote from you ░░░░░░░░ Rex tillerson saying this ░░░░░░░░ a sign that trump ░░░░░░░░ putting the interests of ░░░░░░░░ oil and gas business ░░░░░░░░ of America I m ░░░░░░░░ it s a pretty ░░░░░░░░ charge Do you have ░░░░░░░░ evidence for it Well ░░░░░░░░ evidence is when you ░░░░░░░░ at the cabinet there ░░░░░░░░ three people that I ░░░░░░░░ mentioned all representing one ░░░░░░░░ of view Good policy ░░░░░░░░ is when you have ░░░░░░░░ diversity of views I ░░░░░░░░ you mentioned that the ░░░░░░░░ defense fund is market ░░░░░░░░ We zorkd with president ░░░░░░░░ and his cabinet We ░░░░░░░░ worked with President Bush ░░░░░░░░ and son Just this ░░░░░░░░ year we passed a ░░░░░░░░ safety bill 403 votes ░░░░░░░░ 12 in the house ░░░░░░░░ representatives We don t ░░░░░░░░ a knee jerk response ░░░░░░░░ what we would like ░░░░░░░░ see is balance and ░░░░░░░░ especially at the E ░░░░░░░░ A Mr Pruitt is ░░░░░░░░ of the mainstream Okay ░░░░░░░░ don t like Mr ░░░░░░░░ Okay This is the ░░░░░░░░ of state And what ░░░░░░░░ found so dishonest about ░░░░░░░░ statement is that you ░░░░░░░░ actually not on a ░░░░░░░░ different page from Rex ░░░░░░░░ He has come out ░░░░░░░░ carbon tax He was ░░░░░░░░ of the Paris agreement ░░░░░░░░ spring Those are positions ░░░░░░░░ have You have lost ░░░░░░░░ You can hear me ░░░░░░░░ Krupp Unfortunately he can ░░░░░░░░ We will come back ░░░░░░░░ Fred Krupp I think ░░░░░░░░ are working on the ░░░░░░░░ right now The point ░░░░░░░░ look if you can ░░░░░░░░ me Mr Krupp that ░░░░░░░░ tillerson is not on ░░░░░░░░ opposite side of you ░░░░░░░░ these issues The guy ░░░░░░░░ for carbon tax He ░░░░░░░░ been on the bunch ░░░░░░░░ sides of the carbon ░░░░░░░░ You don t say ░░░░░░░░ at all and nor ░░░░░░░░ you point out co ░░░░░░░░ has gone down to ░░░░░░░░ countries in part by ░░░░░░░░ of Exxon Mobil made ░░░░░░░░ more affordable as opposed ░░░░░░░░ coal for electricity generation ░░░░░░░░ s a real point ░░░░░░░░ ignore because it s ░░░░░░░░ serving your interest in ░░░░░░░░ No Actually tucker we ░░░░░░░░ t make judgments on ░░░░░░░░ basis of fundraising I ░░░░░░░░ tell you right now ░░░░░░░░ appreciate the fact that ░░░░░░░░ Tillerson has acknowledged that ░░░░░░░░ change is a real ░░░░░░░░ I appreciate the fact ░░░░░░░░ he has voiced support ░░░░░░░░ not only a carbon ░░░░░░░░ but also the Paris ░░░░░░░░ And I think it ░░░░░░░░ good for America that ░░░░░░░░ price of National Guard ░░░░░░░░ gone down natural gas ░░░░░░░░ gone down It does ░░░░░░░░ me that Mr Tillerson ░░░░░░░░ head of Exxon and ░░░░░░░░ of the American petroleum ░░░░░░░░ has been against safeguards ░░░░░░░░ make sure that we ░░░░░░░░ t waste natural gas ░░░░░░░░ throwing it into the ░░░░░░░░ It does concern me ░░░░░░░░ he is part of ░░░░░░░░ slate of candidates that ░░░░░░░░ just one view and ░░░░░░░░ you know pack to ░░░░░░░░ major concern about the ░░░░░░░░ and the nominee that ░░░░░░░░ are opposing Scott Pruitt ░░░░░░░░ are putting him in ░░░░░░░░ of an agency when ░░░░░░░░ has build his career ░░░░░░░░ of tearing down protections ░░░░░░░░ the American public from ░░░░░░░░ air The good neighbor ░░░░░░░░ is a rule designed ░░░░░░░░ prevent bad air from ░░░░░░░░ into states It saves ░░░░░░░░ 000 lives a year ░░░░░░░░ Pruitt has been against ░░░░░░░░ he has been against ░░░░░░░░ on Mercury Well to ░░░░░░░░ that it saves 34 ░░░░░░░░ lives a year Look ░░░░░░░░ are getting into the ░░░░░░░░ of speculative when you ░░░░░░░░ saying things like that ░░░░░░░░ have a point of ░░░░░░░░ and that s fine ░░░░░░░░ s what makes honest ░░░░░░░░ impossible when you and ░░░░░░░░ use the term denier ░░░░░░░░ describe people who are ░░░░░░░░ in some cases entirely ░░░░░░░░ questions about climate science ░░░░░░░░ isn t the essence ░░░░░░░░ science that you form ░░░░░░░░ based on observation and ░░░░░░░░ you test and retest ░░░░░░░░ Ohio pot sis You ░░░░░░░░ basically saying people who ░░░░░░░░ questions should be shut ░░░░░░░░ and you espouse using ░░░░░░░░ power of government to ░░░░░░░░ those people in encouraging ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ s fair First of ░░░░░░░░ I haven t used ░░░░░░░░ term denier in talking ░░░░░░░░ you Your group does ░░░░░░░░ was just on the ░░░░░░░░ defense fund website and ░░░░░░░░ are calling people deniers ░░░░░░░░ are in some cases ░░░░░░░░ credible questions Isn t ░░░░░░░░ science Science is based ░░░░░░░░ questioning and we are ░░░░░░░░ that Okay But putting ░░░░░░░░ science to one side ░░░░░░░░ concern about Scott Pruitt ░░░░░░░░ he has been out ░░░░░░░░ the mainstream on American ░░░░░░░░ protection You are not ░░░░░░░░ my questions You are ░░░░░░░░ diverting I m asking ░░░░░░░░ about the specific United ░░░░░░░░ of the term denier ░░░░░░░░ s use antiscience People ░░░░░░░░ to the method would ░░░░░░░░ use the term denier ░░░░░░░░ is welcoming and open ░░░░░░░░ So will you pledge ░░░░░░░░ to stop using that ░░░░░░░░ and to ask your ░░░░░░░░ to do the same ░░░░░░░░ that science is settled ░░░░░░░░ a vast majority of ░░░░░░░░ Since you believe the ░░░░░░░░ is settled We can ░░░░░░░░ that the Earth appears ░░░░░░░░ be warming to What ░░░░░░░░ is that the result ░░░░░░░░ human activity and to ░░░░░░░░ extent is that the ░░░░░░░░ of natural cycles over ░░░░░░░░ we have no control ░░░░░░░░ there is no question ░░░░░░░░ science is settled There ░░░░░░░░ no question that natural ░░░░░░░░ play a part There ░░░░░░░░ no question How big ░░░░░░░░ part since science is ░░░░░░░░ you would know the ░░░░░░░░ how big a part ░░░░░░░░ the incremental warming that ░░░░░░░░ have seen since the ░░░░░░░░ revolution less than 10 ░░░░░░░░ the models tease this ░░░░░░░░ So human caused warming ░░░░░░░░ the overwhelming cause Less ░░░░░░░░ 10 What s the ░░░░░░░░ since do you this ░░░░░░░░ a living and you ░░░░░░░░ familiar with the science ░░░░░░░░ just want to hold ░░░░░░░░ to it if I ░░░░░░░░ Yeah I can t ░░░░░░░░ you the percentage off ░░░░░░░░ top of my head ░░░░░░░░ but it is a ░░░░░░░░ component It s a ░░░░░░░░ component All right My ░░░░░░░░ question to you is ░░░░░░░░ I questioned that and ░░░░░░░░ said look I m ░░░░░░░░ denying all of climate ░░░░░░░░ but a lot of ░░░░░░░░ models have been wrong ░░░░░░░░ you know over the ░░░░░░░░ 60 years They have ░░░░░░░░ And you would concede ░░░░░░░░ Maybe it s 50 ░░░░░░░░ you call me a ░░░░░░░░ or skeptic or would ░░░░░░░░ say no that s ░░░░░░░░ people in science ought ░░░░░░░░ be asking Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ to get my people ░░░░░░░░ science together with people ░░░░░░░░ want to have debate ░░░░░░░░ and let s have ░░░░░░░░ conversation No I m ░░░░░░░░ you as someone who ░░░░░░░░ settled science What s ░░░░░░░░ answer I welcome the ░░░░░░░░ I think when you ░░░░░░░░ at the evidence you ░░░░░░░░ come to the same ░░░░░░░░ I have All right ░░░░░░░░ thanks a lot for ░░░░░░░░ us tonight Thank you ░░░░░░░░ you.
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